Episode Description

Welp, college football did it again. In this college football podcast episode, Ty and Dan react to the news that the College Football Playoff is expanding to 14 teams starting in 2026 with unequal revenue sharing that benefits the Big Ten and SEC. What does this mean for the sport and what might happen next? Plus, a nostalgic look back at some of the best teams and moments from the last decade of the four-team CFP era.

(UPBEAT MUSIC) – WELCOME TO THE SOLID VERBAL. – THE SOLID VERBAL. – COME AFTER ME!

I’M A MAN, I’M 40! – I’VE HEARD SO MANY PLAYERS SAY, “WELL, I WANNA BE HAPPY.”

YOU WANNA BE HAPPY FOR A DAY?

EAT A STEAK. – IT’S THAT WOO WOO! – AND NOW, DAN AND TY. (UPBEAT MUSIC) – WELCOME BACK TO THE SOLID VERBAL, BOYS AND GIRLS.

MY NAME IS TY HILDENBRANDT, JOINING ME AS ALWAYS, THE MAN WITH THE PLAN, THE HEART OF THE MIDWEST.

YES, I SAID IT, HE IS THE HEART OF THE MIDWEST. – SURE. – LIVING IN THE HEART OF THE MIDWEST, DAN RUBENSTEIN, SIR.

WELCOME BACK.

THE POD, HOW GOES IT? – GOOD, I JUST FINISHED AN ENTIRE, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A CASSEROLE, SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A HOT DISH.

I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU GREW UP, I DON’T KNOW WHAT I GREW UP CALLING IT, BUT I JUST FINISHED THREE OF THOSE TO PROVE MY MIDWESTERN METTLE AS WE TALK ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL IN MARCH.

IT’S FLURRYING OUTSIDE AS WE SPEAK, TY, BUT THAT’S NOT GONNA STOP US FROM GOING THROUGH A FLURRY OF NEWS AND OPINIONS ABOUT THE FOUR-TEAM ERA OF THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF, A BYGONE ERA, DRAMATICALLY SO. – A BYGONE ERA, INDEED, WE WILL GET INTO THAT IN JUST A FEW MINUTES, WHAT ALL OF THAT ENTAILS AND WHY IT IS A BYGONE ERA.

IT’S NOW TWO ERAS AGO, IF WE’RE BEING PROPER ABOUT IT, BECAUSE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF DECIDED IT WAS GOING TO EXPAND TO 14, WHICH WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT.

WE’LL TALK ABOUT IT ON THIS EPISODE.

THIS IS AFTER THEY JUST GOT TO 12 AND AFTER THEY JUST DECIDED TO GO TO 12 FROM FOUR.

WE HAVEN’T EVEN STARTED THE 12 TEAM YET.

NO, WE’RE ALREADY GOING TO 14.

SO WE’LL GET INTO THAT AND MUCH, MUCH MORE.

AND AS YOU ALLUDED, YES, WE’RE GOING TO GET INTO SOME OF THE BYGONES THAT WERE IN THE FOUR-TEAM COLLEGE FOOTBALL ERA, SOME OF OUR SHINING MOMENTS FROM SAID FOUR-TEAM ERA AS WE TOOK A WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE.

YOU CAME UP WITH THE IDEA FOR THIS EPISODE, AND I THINK WE BOTH ARRIVED AT THE SAME CONCLUSION, ALBEIT MAYBE THROUGH DIFFERENT WAYS.

THERE WAS A LOT MORE LEGWORK THAT WENT INTO THIS EPISODE THAN INITIALLY THOUGHT. (BOTH LAUGHING) – I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY INSTANCES OF GETTING THE YEAR WRONG.

I WILL, I’M SETTING THE OVER-UNDER RIGHT NOW AT 11 AND A HALF INSTANCES OF LIKE, WELL, IT WAS THE 2019 LSU TEAM, BUT IT WAS THE 2020 COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF.

SO I DON’T KNOW, I’M GOING TO MESS IT UP AND IT’S OKAY.

ALL I DO, ALL I WOULD ASK FOR IS FROM YOU, SOME GRACE, TY. – OF COURSE. – I’M GONNA BLOW THIS UP.

AND FROM ANYBODY LISTENING, JUST CORRECT ME AND DO IT LIKE IN A PRETTY CHILL WAY, WHETHER IT’S SOLIDVERBALITEGMAIL.COM, OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO SAY, YEAH, I THINK YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT THIS.

IT WAS DEFINITELY TCU HERE, OR IT WAS DEFINITELY GEORGIA THERE, SOLIDVERBAL AT GMAIL DOT COM OR ANYWHERE, I DON’T KNOW, TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT. – I WOULD ENCOURAGE OUR LISTENERS OUT ON YOUTUBE. – YOUTUBE IS A GOOD CALL. – TO BE AS VICIOUS AS POSSIBLE ON DAN.

JUST TEAR HIM LIMB FROM LIMB.

YOU DON’T DO YOUR RESEARCH.

YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT THE SANCTITY OF THE YEAR 2020. – RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. – JUST RIP HIM LIMB FROM LIMB.

DO THAT FOR ME. – WELL, YOU CAN, OKAY, SO WHAT YOU CAN DO IS, ANY TAKE I HAVE, ANYTHING I’M WRONG ABOUT, BE VOCAL ABOUT, BE ASSERTIVE ABOUT, BUT ALL I ASK IS THAT THERE’S A PREAMBLE THAT BEGINS WITH, WELL, YES, I ADMIT DAN IS EXCEEDINGLY HANDSOME.

HE REALLY DID SCREW UP HIS 2015 OHIO STATE TAKE. – ALL RIGHT, GET CREATIVE WITH IT. – I WANT THE PREAMBLE, THAT’S ALL I ASK. – GET CREATIVE WITH IT, WHETHER IT’S, AS YOU SAID, SOLIDVERBAL AT GMAIL DOT COM, ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA, OUT ON YOUTUBE, WHEREVER IT IS YOU CONSUME THE POD, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

TWO BITS OF HOUSEKEEPING REAL QUICK. – YEAH, WE ARE. – WE ARE PUSHING ALL THE CHIPS IN THE MIDDLE HERE IN THE OFF SEASON THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF 2024.

IT’S GONNA BE A BIG YEAR IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

AND SO WE’D ENCOURAGE FOLKS WHO ARE JUST PASSING ON THROUGH THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST. – YEAH. – WHATEVER APP YOU ARE LISTENING TO THIS VERY PODCAST EPISODE ON, HIT THE FOLLOW BUTTON.

HIT THE FOLLOW BUTTON, THAT’S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO TO HELP SUPPORT WITH YOUR APP. – I WAS GONNA SAY VENMO YOU $500. – WELL, THAT DOESN’T HURT.

HIT THE FOLLOW BUTTON, WE APPRECIATE IT.

THAT’S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST.

SECONDLY, IF YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A SUPER VERBALLER, GO TO VERBALLERS.COM.

THAT IS OUR PATREON.

THAT’S WHERE YOU GET THIS EPISODE A LITTLE BIT EARLY, YOU GET AD FREE EPISODES, YOU GET ACCESS TO ALL THE GAMES WE DO IN THE OFF SEASON.

WE STARTED A BRACKET POOL RIGHT NOW FOR OUR FOLKS OUT ON VERBALLERS.COM.

YOU ALSO GET ACCESS TO DISCORD, BONUS PERKS THAT GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING SUPPORT DAN AND I A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, VERBALLERS.COM. – YEAH, THAT’S IT. – WITHOUT FURTHER ADO. (UPBEAT MUSIC) GONNA SAVE MY VOICE FOR THE SEASON, DAN.

IT’S NOT SO MUCH BREAKING AT THIS POINT.

WE’RE RECORDING THIS ON MONDAY, MARCH THE 18TH.

MANY OF YOU WILL LISTEN TO THIS ON THE 19TH.

AND OH, BY THE WAY, AS WE TRAVEL BACK IN TIME, (DAN VOCALIZING) TO MARCH THE 15TH, IT BECAME OFFICIAL THAT THEY WERE GOING TO 14 IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF.

THIS HAD FOLLOWED A FEW WEEKS WORTH OF RUMORS.

IT STARTED WITH, YEAH, THEY’RE JUST KIND OF KICKING THE TIRES ON THIS.

MAYBE WE GO TO 14.

IT’D BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THE NFL.

YOU GUYS LIKE THE NFL, RIGHT?

BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, MAYBE THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC MIGHT GET AN UNEQUAL SHARE OF THE PIE BECAUSE THEY’RE THE TWO HEAD HONCHOS NOW IN THIS NEW WORLD ORDER OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

THEN WE SAW SOME RUMORS ABOUT, WOW, MAYBE THERE’LL BE GUARANTEED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TEAMS.

AND WE DIDN’T LIKE THAT AT ALL.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT ON THE SHOW, BUT AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT, ON FRIDAY, MARCH THE 15TH, IT BECAME OFFICIAL THAT THEY’RE AT LEAST EXPANDING TO 14.

THEY’RE EXPANDING TO 14 STARTING IN 2026.

INCLUDED IN THAT AGREEMENT IS WHAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED UNEQUAL REVENUE SHARING WITH THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC GETTING A LARGER SLICE OF THE PIE.

I DON’T KNOW IF IT IS EGREGIOUSLY SO.

WE CAN GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

WE ALSO DON’T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE FORMAT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE.

THEY SORT OF PUNTED ON WHO IS GETTING INTO THIS TOURNAMENT, WHO THOSE 14 TEAMS WILL BE.

WE KNOW IT’S GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY THE POWER FOUR CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS.

THERE’LL BE A GROUP OF FIVE REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL, BUT THE OTHER NINE TEAMS, WE DON’T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT FORMAT’S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT PRESENT.

THEY’LL GET INTO THAT, I GUESS, WHEN THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO.

BUT AS IT STANDS, WE’VE GOT 12 TEAMS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

THEN WE GO TO 14 TEAMS STARTING IN 2026 AND BEYOND DAN RUBENSTEIN. – YEAH, IT SMACKS OF, AND I HATE THIS PHRASE, AND I’VE USED THIS PHRASE TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPANDED PLAYOFF, BUT THE IDEA OF A PARTICIPATION TROPHY, THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE A REPUTATION.

ONE OF THE FIRST I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS UCLA, RIGHT?

UCLA HAS NEVER REALLY BROKEN THROUGH.

THEY HAVEN’T BEEN TO A ROSE BOWL IN DECADES.

AND THEY’RE JUST SORT OF THIS PROGRAM THAT EXISTS TO WIN, BUT NOT ON ANY SORT OF IMPRESSIVE OR NOTABLE LEVEL.

AND SUDDENLY A NINE AND THREE UCLA TEAM IS VERY MUCH IN THE RUNNING FOR, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THEY’D BE IN THE BIG TEN FOR A COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF SELECTION.

SO ALL OF A SUDDEN TEAMS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO TICK BOXES ALL OF A SUDDEN THROUGH NO NEW REAL EFFORT OF THEIR OWN.

LIKE WE’RE EVEN TALKING ABOUT TEAMS, IF YOU LOOK AT YEARS PAST THAT LIKE FLIRTING WITH FOUR LOSSES NOW BEING A PLAYOFF TEAM.

I LOOKED AND I WAS ABOUT TO SORT OF MAKE FUN OF, I THINK IT WAS EITHER 2016 OR 2017 STANFORD THAT FINISHED 13TH IN THE COUNTRY.

SO TYPICALLY WE’RE GONNA SEE WHAT THE TOP 13 POWER FIVE SCHOOLS MAKE THIS WITH LIKELY A SINGLE G5 SCHOOL REPRESENTING IN THAT FIFTH CONFERENCE CHAMPION SPOT.

SO THE NUMBER 13 TEAM FROM LET’S CALL IT 2017 WAS STANFORD AT NINE AND FOUR, OKAY?

AND I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE FUN OF THEM, BUT THEN I LOOKED TO SEE WHO WAS ON THAT TEAM AND WHETHER IT WOULD MAKE MY PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE MORE ENJOYABLE. – CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY?

CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY? – I DON’T BELIEVE IT WAS CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY.

I THINK THAT WAS A BRYCE LOVE STANFORD SQUAD, BUT WHO WAS THE LEADING RECEIVER ON THAT TEAM?

A ONE JJ ARTH… (WATER SPRAYING) …CEGA WHITESIDE. – SPIT IT OUT. – I GOTTA CLEAN MY MICROPHONE.

SO I CAN’T BE SUPER ANGRY ABOUT THAT.

THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP SAYING HIS NAME IN THE POST SEASON IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE.

BUT YEAH, LOOK, IT’S BEING WATERED DOWN.

YOU CAN’T IN GOOD CONSCIOUS SAY LIKE, OH, WE ARE TRULY DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.

WE’RE TURNING OVER EVERY STONE TO FIND A NATIONAL CHAMPION IN LETTING IN NINE AND FOUR STANFORD WITH JJ ARCEGA- WHITESIDE.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU’RE INTO COLLEGE FOOTBALL LIKE WE ARE, IT’S MORE GAMES, IT’S MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR WEIRDNESS.

ON THIS SHOW SPECIFICALLY, WE’RE GONNA TALK ABOUT PERFORMANCES AND MOMENTS.

AND SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF GAMES THAT COULD GIVE US INTERESTING, MEMORABLE PERFORMANCES OR MOMENTS DOES INCREASE.

BUT IT’S HARD TO SAY THAT THIS IS IN PLACE SO WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO FIND A NATIONAL CHAMPION BECAUSE THERE’S A POINT IN THE RANKINGS WHERE YOU’RE LIKE, WE’RE NOT ACTUALLY HAVING A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP CONVERSATION ALREADY IN THIS MOMENT. – OKAY, SO YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND IN THE PLAYOFF.

I HAVE SAID THIS A MILLION TIMES OVER, I APOLOGIZE TO OUR VERBALLERS WHO ARE TIRED OF HEARING ME SAY IT. – YEAH. – THE FOUR TEAM FORMAT WAS ALWAYS DUMB.

IT WAS ALWAYS DUMB.

I ALWAYS WANTED MORE BECAUSE THERE WERE MORE POWER CONFERENCES.

THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE IT, THEY DIDN’T.

WE DEALT WITH THAT FOR 10 YEARS.

NOW WE’RE GOING TO 12.

I’M A BIG FAN OF 12, LOVE 12.

THE 14 TEAM DISCUSSION TO ME DOES START TO TEETER ON THE BRINK OF BEING EXCESSIVE. – RIGHT. – IN MY OPINION.

I DON’T SO MUCH MIND THAT THEY’RE TAKING AWAY TWO OF THE BYES AND THEY’RE ADDING TWO GAMES ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AS PART OF THIS.

I’M ASSUMING THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE DOING.

NOW THEY HAVEN’T SAID THAT, BUT I’M ASSUMING THAT WILL BE THE WAY THAT THIS THING GOES.

THERE’LL BE TWO FEWER TEAMS WITH BUYS, THOSE GAMES WILL BE ON CAMPUS.

I’M ALL ABOUT PUTTING AS MANY OF THESE GAMES ON CAMPUS AS POSSIBLE.

I COULDN’T GIVE A RIP ABOUT THE BOWLS.

I DON’T CARE.

I CARE ABOUT THE ROSE BOWL.

THEY SHOULD JUST PLAY THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP AT THE ROSE BOWL EVERY YEAR.

THAT’D BE GREAT.

BUT OTHERWISE, LET’S PLAY THESE GAMES ON CAMPUS.

THAT’S WHERE COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS MEANT TO BE PLAYED.

WHAT REALLY STARTS TO SKEW ME OUT A LITTLE BIT THOUGH, IS THIS UNEQUAL REVENUE SHARING THING.

SO LIKE PART OF THE REASON- – WELL, WHO’S RUNNING THE PLAYOFF?

IT’S NOT THE PLAYOFF COMMITTEE ANYMORE. – I GET IT. – SEC, BIG TEN. – I GET IT.

THEY’RE THE TWO WITH THE MOST WEIGHT, THE BIGGEST BRANDS, THE MOST MONEY, AND THEY’RE GONNA THROW THEIR WEIGHT AROUND.

THEY’RE GONNA PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, I MADE A VIDEO ABOUT HOW SOME OF THEIR PROPOSALS TO TRY AND GET MORE OF THEIR TEAMS IN WAS A LITTLE BIT SHADY.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SHADY IN THAT THERE’S UNEQUAL REVENUE SHARING.

THE REASON THAT THEY FORCED THIS THROUGH IN THE MANNER THAT THEY DID IS BECAUSE THEY’RE ALSO TRYING TO TIME IT UP WITH WHAT IS ESTIMATED TO BE A $1.3 BILLION ANNUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF AND ESPN.

THAT’S A LOT OF POTATOES, DAN. – YEAH, IT IS. – 1.3 BILLION, THAT’S A LOT OF POTATOES. – A LOT OF TOSTITOS, YEAH. – IT STARTS TO REALLY WORRY ME THOUGH, ONCE WE GET INTO THIS TERRITORY OF UNEQUAL REVENUE SHARING.

I UNDERSTAND WHY THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC WOULD ASK FOR IT. – OF COURSE. – I DON’T FAULT THEM.

I DON’T FAULT TONY PETITTI, GREG SANKEY.

THEY ARE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THEIR MEMBER INSTITUTIONS.

I DON’T FAULT THEM AT ALL FOR TRYING TO GET AS BIG A SLICE OF THE PIE AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN.

THAT’S WHAT THEIR JOB IS TO DO.

BUT WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT, WELL, EVERY BIG TEN AND SEC SCHOOL IS GONNA GET $21 MILLION PER YEAR.

MEANWHILE, IN THE SEC, THOSE TEAMS ARE ONLY GONNA GET $13 MILLION.

NOTRE DAME’S GONNA GET $12 MILLION.

IF YOU’RE A GROUP OF FIVE TEAM, YOU’RE GONNA GET $1.8 MILLION.

IF YOU’RE OREGON STATE AND WASHINGTON STATE, YOU’RE GONNA GET 360 GRAND. – AND, AND I BELIEVE A CASE OF GRANOLA BARS. – AND A CASE OF GRANOLA BARS, YEAH. – THEY’RE THE GOOD STUFF, BY THE WAY.

NOT LIKE CHEAP GENERIC GRANOLA BARS.

THEY’RE GETTING CHEWY. – NOT AS SPONSOR COULD BE. – YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE. – WHEN WE START CODIFYING WHAT HAS BEEN THE CASE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR AN ETERNITY, WHICH HAS BEEN THE SOURCE OF MUCH OF THE DEBATE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL SINCE ETERNITY, THIS HAVES VERSUS HAVE-NOTS THING, WHEN YOU WRITE THAT INTO LAW, THAT STARTS TO MAKE ME GO, HMM.

HMM.

LIKE, IT’S KIND OF ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. – YEAH. – BUT WHEN WE START ACTUALLY PUTTING IT INTO CONCRETE, INTO STONE. – YEAH. – THEN I START, MY HEART SINKS A LITTLE BIT THAT WE’RE MAKING THIS A REALITY THAT IS BUILT INTO THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

AND IT’S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT WITH A WINK AND A NOD ANYMORE.

NOW THIS IS OFFICIAL.

THIS IS THE LAY OF THE LAND AS THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC SEE FIT.

THAT BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT. – THESE ARE, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED.

THIS IS WHAT YOU AND THE TY-HEADS WANTED. – THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANTED! – YOU WANTED EXPANSION, EXPANSION.

ALL THESE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS, WE’VE GOT ALL THESE CONFERENCES.

I WANT 12, I WANT 14, I WANT 16.

IF YOU WANT A TRUE PLAYOFF. – HOLD ON, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. – I DIDN’T WANT- – YOU WERE MR. 16 BEFORE. – I WAS MR.

16. – HOW CAN YOU BE ANTI-14 BUT PRO-16? – BECAUSE OF THIS, BECAUSE OF THE UNEQUAL REVENUE SHARING.

I WAS PRO-16 WITH THE OLD DAN WETZEL MODEL.

YOU KNOW THIS. – OKAY. – WHERE WE INCLUDE ALL THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS AND MAYBE IT DOESN’T HAVE QUITE THE LUSTER, THE STAR POWER THAT THIS 14 TEAM VERSION IS GONNA HAVE. – SURE. – BUT AT LEAST IT’S FAIR.

IF WE’RE ALL PLAYING UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PART OF THE SAME PLAYOFF, YEAH?

THAT MAKES, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOGICAL CONCLUSION. – BUT THAT DOESN’T EXIST IN REALITY.

YOU’RE NOT LIVING IN REALITY BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT LOW LEVEL G5 GAMES WERE NOT PLAYING THE EXACT SAME GAME AS HIGHER LEVEL POWER FIVE TEAMS. – BUT JUST DON’T LUMP ME INTO BEING LIKE A NETWORK GUY LIKE YOU DID WITH THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS.

DON’T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT’S NOT TRUE.

THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANTED.

I DIDN’T WANT– – WHAT WOULD, IF YOU WERE LIKE VERY MUCH A TY FAN ON THIS SHOW, WHERE YOU’RE LIKE, I ONLY LISTEN TO THIS SHOW FOR TY.

LIKE, WHAT DO YOU CALL YOUR, ARE YOU A TY, LIKE TY AND THE “TYPHOONS”?

LIKE WHAT IS, THAT’S PRETTY GOOD, RIGHT? – IT’S NOT BAD. – WHAT IS YOUR GROUPING OF FOLLOWERS THAT YOU’RE JUST LIKE, MAN, I RIDE FOR TY AND THAT’S WHY I’M HERE. – “RIDE OR TY”? – YEAH, IT’S NOT BAD.

OKAY, CONTINUE. – I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE DAN’S ARE.

PLEASE WRITE IN, LET US KNOW WHAT THESE, WHAT THESE TWO WARRING FACTIONS ARE AMONG THE VERBALLERHOOD.

BUT YOU GET MY POINT.

MY POINT WAS NOT THAT IF WE’RE GONNA EXPAND TO 16, IT’S GONNA MEAN MORE OF THE POWER TEAMS.

I THINK IT SHOULD MEAN MORE OF THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS.

IF WE’RE GONNA PLAY THESE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES, IF THEY WANT THE CONFERENCE AFFILIATION TO MEAN SOMETHING AND THE CHAMPIONSHIP TO MEAN SOMETHING, THEN WE SHOULD INCLUDE ALL THOSE TEAMS.

BUT FINE, THAT’S NOT REALITY.

I’M NOT NECESSARILY PRO THIS, GIVING THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC AND HOWEVER MANY TEAMS THEY WANT.

AND I’M CERTAINLY NOT PRO CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE SAW BECAUSE I DON’T WANNA KILL OFF THE PAC-12 EITHER.

BUT YOU’RE RIGHT.

THIS IS NOW THE REALITY THAT WE LIVE IN.

I GUESS WE’RE GONNA BE FORCED TO EAT THIS AND ENJOY IT.

AND LOOK, WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, IT WILL BE GREAT FOOTBALL TO WATCH.

YEAH, LIKE IT’LL BE FUN TO WATCH.

FUN TO WATCH MORE MEANINGFUL GAMES ON CAMPUS INTO DECEMBER.

LIKE WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS NOW, BUT WHEN THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD AND WE SEE THESE GAMES, PEOPLE ARE GONNA TUNE INTO THE PODCAST.

I HOPE, I HOPE TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THESE MATCHUPS ‘CAUSE THEY’LL ALL BE- WE ALREADY HAVE MEANINGFUL GAMES, TY.

WE HAVE THEM ALREADY.

NOT ON DECEMBER THE 20TH.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT’LL CHANGE.

THAT’LL CHANGE THIS YEAR.

THERE’S 12 TO 13 EXISTING MEANINGFUL GAMES ON THE SCHEDULE FOR EVERYBODY.

SO THAT’S IMPORTANT.

YEAH, IT’S THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC THROWING THEIR WEIGHT AROUND.

THEY WANT MORE TEAMS PARTICIPATING.

THEY FEEL LIKE THEY’RE PAYING FOR THIS BECAUSE THEIR MAJOR TEAMS, THEIR HEADLINE TEAMS, THE ONES THAT DRAW EVERYTHING, DRAW THE NUMBERS ON TV AND NOTRE DAME, OF COURSE, WHICH IS WHY NOTRE DAME HAS A SPECIAL SEAT AT THIS TABLE, UNDERSTANDABLY SO.

BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A TV PRODUCT AND BECAUSE THE BIG TEN AND SEC ARE BRINGING THE MOST IMPORTANT ACTORS TO THIS, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE A SAY AS TO HOW MANY OF THEIR ACTORS ARE CAST ON THE SHOW.

AND IT’S NO DIFFERENT THAN, LOOK, IF YOUR MOM WERE A BILLIONAIRE AND SHE BOUGHT THE YANKEES AND SHE SAID, “BUSINESS AS USUAL, EXCEPT TY IS STARTING AT SHORTSTOP.” (LAUGHING) RIGHT?

THAT’S WHERE WE ARE WITH TONY PETITTI AND GREG SANKEY.

LIKE POST-SEASON, PLAYOFF, TV DEAL.

ALSO, FIVE OF OUR TEAMS ARE PLAYING IN THIS THING NO MATTER WHAT, RIGHT?

THAT’S WHERE WE ARE.

THERE IS LIKE THE NEPO-BABY QUOTIENT TO THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION WITH THE BIG TEN AND SEC.

AND I SAW THERE WAS AN ANONYMOUS QUOTE, I BELIEVE IT WAS HEATHER DINICH WHO WROTE THE ARTICLE FOR ESPN WHERE IT WAS LIKE THE GODFATHER OFFER, YOU CAN’T REFUSE IT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT’S LAID IN FRONT OF YOU AND THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT’S GONNA GET FOR G5 CONFERENCES OR INDEPENDENCE, NOTRE DAME, WHATEVER.

SO AN OFFER THEY COULDN’T REFUSE.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

AND IT WOULD BE STUPID FOR ME TO MAKE ANY SORT OF ANALOGY, METAPHOR, WHATEVER BEYOND THE THOUGHT OF 42-YEAR-OLD TY PLAYING SHORTSTOP FOR A RANDOM YANKEE GAME IN BALTIMORE IN MID-JUNE, WHICH IS GREAT.

IT’S WHERE WE ARE.

LET’S TRY TO SEE THE POSITIVE OF IT.

WE DON’T NECESSARILY, I THINK WE’RE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE’RE NOT POSITIVE WHO THIS IS FOR BEYOND ESPN AND POTENTIALLY ANYBODY THEY SUBCONTRACT THIS OUT TO. – GOD, THIS IS INVENTORY. – AND THE BIG TEN AND SEC. – THIS IS INVENTORY FOR ESPN AND THIS IS ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE FOR THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC ‘CAUSE IT’S CLEAR THAT THEY’RE DRIVING THE BUS AT THIS POINT. – RIGHT. – AND FRANKLY, IF YOU ARE THE BIG 12, IF YOU ARE THE ACC, IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF FIVE, IF YOU ARE SEEING THE TENOR OF THIS CONVERSATION GO IN THE DIRECTION OF 14, MEANS MORE MONEY FOR YOU GUYS.

AND IT ALSO MEANS, AGAIN, POTENTIALLY TWO MORE SLOTS THAT ONE OF YOUR TEAMS COULD FILL, NOT THAT THEY WILL.

AGAIN, WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE FORMAT IS FOR THESE OTHER NINE SLOTS.

SO IF THAT IS THE WAY THE CONVERSATION’S GOING, I DON’T THINK THESE GUYS ARE GONNA DISAGREE WITH IT.

I DO THINK THAT THE REAL SOURCE OF TENSION HERE IS THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC VERSUS THE REST OF THE SPORT. – AND THE NEW PRECEDENT WHERE IT’S JUST, BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN BE IN ADDING NEW TEAMS TO YOUR CONFERENCE.

AND IF YOU’RE SUCCESSFUL, YOU GAIN EVEN MORE LEVERAGE OVER WHAT’S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE A BIG, NEUTRAL, NATIONAL, RATIONAL, SENSICAL POST-SEASON.

AND YOU DON’T, THAT JUST DOESN’T EXIST, AT LEAST IN NAME ANYWAY.

AND IT’S JUST, IT’S A BUMMER.

IT IS A BUMMER THAT YOU CAN, THAT’S THE NEW PATH TO POWER IN THE SPORT.

OR MAYBE IT ALWAYS WAS THE POWER, WE JUST NEVER HAD A PLAYOFF TO EXPAND UPON, BUT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT FURTHER UNDERSCORES EVERYTHING. – IT’S NOT SO MUCH THE PATH TO POWER AS IT IS THE PATH TO RELATIVE STABILITY, WHICH AS YOU SAID, TIME AND AGAIN, STABILITY IS THE CURRENCY, THE ULTIMATE CURRENCY IN 2024 COLLEGE FOOTBALL, BECAUSE THE BIG 12 ADDED, I DON’T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY TEAMS, LIKE 18 TEAMS NOW, WHATEVER IT IS, 16 TEAMS.

AND THEY’RE GETTING LESS MONEY AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT THAN ANYBODY ELSE, BUT THEY ARE ONE OF THE POWER FOUR CONFERENCES.

THEY WILL CLEARLY BE PART OF THIS PLAYOFF.

MY ASSUMPTION IS ON MOST YEARS, THEY’LL GET MORE THAN ONE TEAM IN.

THAT IS A WIN IF YOU’RE BRETT YORMARK, EVEN IF THE MONEY DOESN’T QUITE STACK UP TO THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC, WHICH ARE GETTING BY ESTIMATES HERE ON AVERAGE LIKE $9 MILLION MORE PER SEASON.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

THE ONLY BIT THAT I WILL ADD ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, THE COMMENTARY, IF YOU GO AND READ LIKE FACEBOOK COMMENTS OR YOUTUBE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS, THE COMMENTARY AROUND NOTRE DAME IS JUST KILLING ME.

OH, PEOPLE JUST- – PEOPLE ARE PISSED THAT NOTRE DAME HAS AS LARGE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AS THEY DO? – THEY ARE.

AND IT’S THE ONE TIE THAT BINDS IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL, THIS HATRED FOR NOTRE DAME.

AND AS A NOTRE DAME FAN, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKE ME MORE OF A FAN, FRANKLY. – YEAH. – THE FACT THAT PEOPLE SPELL NOTRE DAME WITH THE R BEFORE THE E, OR THE E BEFORE THE R BECAUSE THEY THINK IT’S FUNNY, OR THE R BEFORE THE T BECAUSE THEY LIKE SAYING “NORTE” DAME.

THE DISCOURSE OUT THERE ABOUT NOTRE DAME HAVING THIS BIG A SLICE OF THE PIE OR BEING INCLUDED AT ALL BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT IN A CONFERENCE IS THE ONE THING WE CAN SET OUR WATCH BY IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

IF NOTRE DAME JOINS A CONFERENCE, THEN THE WHOLE DAMN THING’S GOING UNDER BECAUSE THAT AMOUNT OF PURE UNADULTERATED HATE IN THE ONLINE SPHERE IS ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO AS A NOTRE DAME FAN AT THIS POINT. – OF COURSE. – THEY’RE NOT WINNING THE GAMES AGAINST RANKED OPPONENTS.

THEY STILL HAVEN’T FIGURED OUT HOW TO BUILD A PASSING GAME.

THERE’S A LOT IN NOTRE DAME WORLD THAT’S GREAT.

THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT STILL ARE THERE AND HAVE NEVER REALLY GOTTEN BETTER.

THIS IS THE ONE THING THAT I LOVE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, INTERNET, FOR GIVING ME THIS. – JUST TO PLAY DEVIL’S ADVOCATE TO ALL THE NOTRE DAME HATERS, THEY HUNG WITH MARSHALL FOUR STRAIGHT QUARTERS TWO YEARS AGO. – THEY DID. – WHERE WERE THOSE HATERS THEN, TY? – LISTEN, IT’S A “THUNDERING” HERD, OKAY?

IT’S NOT JUST A REGULAR ONE. – YEAH.

I MEAN, THAT’S WHY NOTRE DAME’S AT THE TABLE, RIGHT?

THAT’S WHY THEY HAVE THAT SEAT BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD TO DO THIS.

THEY KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL WATCH THEIR GAMES.

THEY KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE ENOUGH OF AN OPINION OF NOTRE DAME THAT THEY’RE ALWAYS GONNA BE AT THE TABLE CONVERSATIONALLY.

AND BECAUSE THEY’RE AT THAT TABLE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TUNE IN TO THEIR GAMES OUT OF SHEER CURIOSITY TO LOVE ON THEM, TO HATE THEM, WHATEVER.

THEY’VE EARNED IT.

THEY’VE EARNED IT, AT LEAST OVER THE COURSE OF THE HISTORY OF THIS SPORT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, PEOPLE ARE DRAWN TO THE IRISH.

THAT’S WHY I DID THIS. – I NEED TO KNOW, WE’LL HAVE PETE OR SOMEBODY ON, PETE SAMPSON OR SOMEBODY ON IN THE RELATIVELY NEAR FUTURE TO TALK THROUGH NOTRE DAME AND ITS STANCE ON INDEPENDENCE AND WHAT THE DOLLAR FIGURE LOOKS, WHAT THE DELTA LOOKS LIKE BEFORE THEY DECIDE THEY NEED TO JOIN THE BIG TEN. – YEAH. – WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?

BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THEY WILL HAVE TO, AT SOME POINT THEY WILL HAVE NO CHOICE.

AND I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S BASED ON FLORIDA STATE LEAVING THE ACC AND MAKING THAT CONFERENCE BASICALLY INSOLVENT.

I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S BASED ON SOME OF THE UPCOMING, LET’S SAY COURT RULINGS WITH RESPECT TO WHETHER OR NOT PLAYERS ARE EMPLOYEES AND IF THAT CHANGES THE SPORT AGAIN IN A PRETTY DRASTIC WAY.

I DON’T KNOW WHAT THAT TIPPING POINT IS, BUT AT SOME POINT THAT DOLLAR FIGURE, THAT GAP BETWEEN NOTRE DAME AND TEAMS IN THE BIG TEN IS GONNA BE SO GREAT THAT THEY’RE GONNA HAVE NO CHOICE.

I DON’T KNOW. – I GUESS, I MEAN. – AT SOME POINT IT HAS TO. – I DON’T EVEN KNOW IF THAT’S TRUE. – AT SOME POINT. – I THINK THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT THE FREEDOM THAT NOTRE DAME HAS THAT IS WORTH AN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT ISN’T NECESSARILY QUANTIFIABLE, BUT IT ALLOWS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SCHEDULING FLEXIBILITY.

IT ALLOWS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ADVERTISING REVENUE, TV REVENUE. – I MEAN, LOOK DAN, THE SYSTEM, THE WAY THAT THIS IS SET UP, AND AGAIN, WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE FORMAT IS OF THE 14 TEAM THING YET.

BUT THE WAY THAT THE 12 TEAM PLAYOFF IS SET UP, WE’VE TALKED ABOUT ON THE POD, IT’S ADVANTAGEOUS FOR NOTRE DAME.

IT DOESN’T WORK AGAINST THEM. – RIGHT. – IT REALLY DOESN’T.

SO IF YOU’RE NOTRE DAME, AND YOU’RE MAKING THAT CALCULATION, LIKE, OKAY, WE DON’T PLAY A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AGAINST A BETTER TEAM.

WE’RE GONNA GET, IN TURN, A WORSE TEAM AT HOME FIRST ROUND OF THE PLAYOFF.

THAT’S A TRADE YOU MAKE, ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL.

BUT IF THERE IS A MONEY CONVERSATION, IF THAT’S MONEY THAT YOU CAN USE TO FUND WHATEVER, I DON’T KNOW, I’M NOT AN AD, I’M NOT AN ADMINISTRATOR. – SURE. – THEN PERHAPS IT’S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

BUT THAT’S, WE WILL ASK THAT QUESTION TO SOMEBODY MORE INFORMED THAN THE NOTRE DAME FRONT. – SHOULD ALSO MENTION THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CLAUSES IN THIS DEAL FOR PEEK-INS, I THINK IS THE PHRASE.

SO, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE FIRST SEASON, I BELIEVE THERE’S A PEEK-IN TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE COMPETITIVE NATURE AND FINANCIAL NATURE OF A 14 TEAM PLAYOFF.

AND ALSO THERE’S A CLAUSE IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF REALIGNMENT OR MAJOR REALIGNMENT THAT HAPPENS, THEN THE PLAYERS INVOLVED, LET’S BE CLEAR, NOT THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS. – NO, NOT THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS. – REPRESENTATIVES OF MAJOR CONFERENCES AND INSTITUTIONS. – THE GUYS IN LIKE YELLOW JACKETS, RIGHT? – YEAH, YEAH.

THEY CAN MEET UP TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF THE PLAYOFF.

LIKE IT’S NOT SET IN STONE.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE WITH THE FORMAT, SHOULD THERE BE REALIGNMENT AS WELL.

SO THEY’RE BAKING IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, INTERESTING AVENUES FOR CHANGE, SHOULD THEY WANT IT ALONG THE WAY.

BUT SO WE HAVE 12 TEAMS FOR 2024, 2025, AND THEN STARTING IN 26.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE 2024 REGULAR SEASON BEGETS A 12 TEAM PLAYOFF.

SAME FOR 25.

AND THEN STARTING WITH THE 2026 REGULAR SEASON, WE GO TO 14, WHICH HONESTLY AT THIS POINT, THE MOST FASCINATING ELEMENT TO ME IS NOT THE LIKE, HOW MANY BIG TEN AND SEC TEAMS GET AUTO BIDS?

‘CAUSE WE KNOW IT’S GOING TO BE A LOT.

IT’S MORE, HOW ARE THEY MAKING THIS CALENDAR?

HOW ARE THEY SETTING ASIDE THE TIME IN DECEMBER?

HOW DEEP INTO JANUARY ARE THEY WILLING TO GO TO HOLD THIS PLAYOFF?

OR HOW EARLY INTO DECEMBER?

OR WHAT BECOMES OF CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES?

WHAT BECOMES OF THE PORTAL DATES?

WHAT BECOMES OF, AND I KNOW, I THINK WE’VE MENTIONED IT JUST IN PASSING, THAT LIKE SOME OF THE DATES AROUND SIGNING DAY, LIKE I DON’T BELIEVE IT’S HAPPENING THIS TIME.

WE’LL DO A SHOW ABOUT THE CHANGING CALENDAR, BUT LIKE WE COULD HAVE A SUMMER SIGNING DAY RELATIVELY SOON, I BELIEVE.

LIKE EVERYTHING IS CHANGING IN TERMS OF CALENDAR.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO REJIGGER EVERYTHING TO SQUEEZE IN, YOU KNOW, THE ROUND OF 14 GAMES OR WHATEVER, THAT FIRST ROUND IN SOME PLACE IN DECEMBER, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE BULLS ALIGNING WITH EVERYTHING?

IT’S, I DON’T ENVY THE JOB OF WHOEVER’S FORMULATING THIS BEHIND THE SCENES. – NO, AND YOU’RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT PLAYERS WHO ARE GOING TO PLAY 17 GAMES. – CORRECT, YEAH. – PLAYERS WHO ARE GOING TO PLAY 17 GAMES, 12 PLUS THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP.

MAYBE YOUR TEAM LOSES, BUT YOU STILL GET IN.

MAYBE YOU’LL WIN, BUT YOU DON’T GET THE BUY.

SUDDENLY YOU GO THE FULL WAY THROUGH, YOU’RE PLAYING 17 GAMES.

AND ON SOME LEVEL, THAT’S A PLAYER SAFETY ISSUE.

I MEAN, IT WAS IN THE NFL. – SURE. – 14 IS GOING TO BE EXACTLY LIKE THE NFL WITH THE WAY THAT THEY’VE EXPANDED THEIR PLAYOFF WITH THE SUPER WILD CARD WEEKEND.

AND THEY EXPANDED TO 14 TEAMS AS WELL, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

AND SO ON SOME LEVEL, THERE’S A CONVERSATION HERE ABOUT IF WE DO GET TO A POINT WITH COLLEGE FOOTBALL WHERE WE’RE CALLING PLAYERS EMPLOYEES, EVEN IN THE CURRENT STATE WITH NIL, WHERE PLAYERS CAN USE LEVERAGE IF THEY WANT TO.

WE HAVEN’T SEEN A WHOLE LOT OF IT, BUT THERE’S CERTAINLY BEEN OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.

IF PLAYERS WHO ARE RIPE FOR THE NFL AND READY TO GO ON TO THE NEXT LEVEL, LOOK AT THE PLAYOFF SYSTEM AND SAY, WOW, THIS IS, I DON’T KNOW IF I WANT TO PUT MYSELF THROUGH FOUR MORE GAMES.

THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT I THINK WE’RE GOING TO, MAN, HAVE MORE OF AS THE STATE PROGRESSES. – THE RED SHIRT CONVERSATION AROUND, LIKE YOU GET THE FOUR GAMES, AND THEN WE’VE HAD AN ABILITY TO WATCH RED SHIRT PLAYERS IN BOWL GAMES.

SO IS THERE GOING TO BE A PLAYER WHO PLAYS SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT GAMES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A SEASON, BUT TECHNICALLY IT DIDN’T HAPPEN IN TERMS OF THEIR RED SHIRT YEAR? – I CAN’T WAIT.

I CAN’T, IT’S SO SCREWY.

AND SAY WHAT YOU WILL ABOUT THE FOUR TEAM MODEL.

IT WAS, AND YOU CAN ARGUE ABOUT THE SELECTION PROCESS.

YOU CAN ARGUE ABOUT A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS OF IT.

IN TERMS OF SCHEDULE, IN TERMS OF BRACKET, PRETTY CLEAN. – YEAH. – PRETTY CLEAN WAY OF GOING ABOUT A POST-SEASON.

I HAVEN’T BEEN A BIG FAN OF IT OVERALL.

IT’S JUST BEEN KIND OF JANKY TO ME, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO ALL OF THE FOUR TEAM HIPSTERS THAT THIS SPORT IS ABOUT TO BREED IN LIKE 2033.

AH, THE GOOD OLD DAYS.

WHEN I COULD JUST WATCH DARRON LEE TACKLE, YOU KNOW, THOMAS TYNER OR SOMETHING EARLY ON IN THE FOUR TEAM ERA.

IT’S GONNA, WE’RE GOING TO GET A BUNCH OF FOUR TEAM HIPSTERS OUT OF THIS, WHICH IS TRULY ASTONISHING. – FOUR TEAM HIPSTERS.

THAT’S A PERFECT SEGUE. – THAT’S WHAT I DO. – THAT’S A PERFECT SEGUE TO GET INTO THE MEATIER PORTION OF THIS EPISODE, WHERE WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THAT FOUR-TEAM ERA.

BEFORE WE DO THOUGH, AGAIN, HIT FOLLOW.

IF YOU WANT TO HELP SUPPORT THE SHOW, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

ALSO CHIME IN ON SOCIAL MEDIA, CHIME IN VIA EMAIL, SOLIDVERBAL AT GMAIL DOT COM.

REALLY WHEREVER IT IS YOU’RE CONSUMING THIS, WHATEVER MEANS YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH, LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE IN THIS 14 TEAMER.

WE’VE BEEN, I THINK, VERY INTERESTED.

WE ALWAYS ARE, BUT LET’S SAY EVEN MORE INTERESTED TO GET THE PULSE OF THE VERBALLERHOOD ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE AFTER YEARS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL SORT OF BEING ROOTED IN ONE PHILOSOPHY, SUDDENLY THINGS HAVE CHANGED VERY DRASTICALLY.

AND THAT IS WHEN YOU GET VERY INTERESTING OPINIONS FROM FOLKS WHO HAVE FOLLOWED THIS SPORT THEIR ENTIRE LIVES, PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND DIE BY THE SPORT THE WAY DAN AND I DO.

WE JUST WELCOME ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK.

SO HOWEVER YOU CAN, HIT US UP, LET US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS.

WE’VE HAD PEOPLE SEND IN THEIR OWN FORMATS AND THEIR OWN FORMULAS AND THEIR OWN CONSPIRACIES.

WE READ ALL OF THAT STUFF.

WE CAN’T RESPOND TO ALL OF IT, BUT WE CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

SO HOWEVER YOU ARE COMFORTABLE, REACH OUT AND GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS.

ON THE TOPIC OF THE 14 TEAMER, DAN.

THE SLIPPER STILL FITS!

IT IS MARCH MADNESS WEEK HERE.

YEAH.

OREGON’S IN THE TOURNAMENT, AN 11 SEED, RIGHT?

PAC, THE FINAL PAC-12 MEN’S BASKETBALL CHAMPIONS.

YES.

TAKING ON SOUTH CAROLINA.

ARE YOU GONNA PICK A BRACKET?

YOU’RE GONNA PICK A BRACKET, RIGHT?

OF COURSE I AM.

YOU’RE GONNA PICK A BRACKET.

WE HAVE, I STARTED THE POOL.

SO IF YOU’RE A PATREON VERBALLER, YOU CAN PLAY IN THE POOL.

I’LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS POSTED FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED.

HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE BRACKET, HAVE NOT WATCHED ANY COLLEGE BASKETBALL THIS YEAR, BUT OF COURSE I’LL BE PICKING A BRACKET AND BEING IN MULTIPLE MONEY POOLS.

THAT’S JUST THE WAY I ROLL.

YOU HAVEN’T WATCHED IT?

I’VE WATCHED A LOT OF CAITLIN CLARK.

THAT’S BEEN REAL FUN.

I HAVEN’T WATCHED A MINUTE OF COLLEGE BASKETBALL THIS YEAR.

OH, I FEEL BAD FOR YOU.

A SINGLE MINUTE.

I’VE SEEN SOME OF THE CONTROVERSY ABOUT COURT STORMING AND PLAYERS GETTING LIKE, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

KNOCKED OVER AND SOME OF THE JAY BILAS TAKES, BUT BEYOND THAT, I AM RELATIVELY UNINFORMED AS COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS.

PURDUE IS GOOD AND THEY’VE GOT A BIG TALL GUY NAMED ZACH.

ZACH EDEY, YEAH.

THAT’S WHAT I CAN TELL YOU.

AND THEY LOST LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.

WELL, BIG TEN TEAMS ALWAYS LOSE IN THE TOURNAMENT IN EMBARRASSING FASHION THAT FIRST WEEKEND, YEAH.

SO I PLAY THE GUS JOHNSON SOUND, I’LL PLAY IT AGAIN.

THE SLIPPER STILL FITS!

ONE OF THE ALL-TIME GREAT CLIPS DURING TOURNEY TIME FROM OUR MAN, GUS JOHNSON.

WE WENT BACK THROUGH TIME AND WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE MOMENTS OVER THE FOUR-TEAM ERA THAT BRING US THE WARM FUZZIES.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

SENSE OF NOSTALGIA.

YEAH, WE’VE GOT, I DON’T KNOW IF WE’RE DEALING WITH THIS ON LIKE A ONE SHINING OR A BUNCH OF SHINING MOMENTS LEVEL OR A HIGH SCHOOL YEARBOOK SUPERLATIVE TYPE LEVEL, BUT LOOKING BACK ON THE LAST, SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WHAT, 10, FOUR-TEAM PLAYOFFS?

YEAH.

IS MY MATH CORRECT?

I HOPE IT IS.

YOU GOT IT.

A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT I FORGOT ABOUT, A BUNCH OF PERFORMANCES THAT I WOULD LOVE TO REBATHE IN THE JACUZZI OF.

LIKE THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF EXCELLENCE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

A LOT OF NAMES WHERE YOU’RE JUST LIKE, I REMEMBER THAT GUY.

THEN YOU GO BACK AND WATCH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF J.K.

DOBBINS AGAINST CLEMSON, RIGHT?

OR LIKE J.K.

DOBBINS AND TREVOR E…

TRAVIS ETIENNE ON THE SAME, LIKE THERE’S SO MUCH AND THERE’S OBVIOUSLY, LOOK, THERE’S A LOT OF OHIO STATE, THERE’S A LOT OF CLEMSON, THERE’S A LOT OF ALABAMA, BUT THE INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCES, THE WEIRD PLAYS, THE STREAKS, LIKE THERE WAS A LOT, THERE’S A LOT OF MEAT ON THAT BONE THAT I THINK WE CAN NOW IN TURN AS FOUR TEAM HIPSTERS, WE CAN START GNAWING A LITTLE BIT.

START US OFF.

WHAT ARE YOU GNAWING ON?

ALL RIGHT, WHO IS THE BEST TEAM OF THE PLAYOFF ERA?

TO ME, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUALITY ANSWERS TO THIS. 2021, SO THE 2021 REGULAR SEASON GEORGIA.

MOSE DEFINITELY HAS TO BE IN THAT CONVERSATION.

I BELIEVE THEY, OF THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF NATIONAL CHAMPIONS FINISHED WITH THE SEASON BEST NET POINTS PER DRIVE, WHICH IS A SORT OF STRAIGHTFORWARD METRIC THAT I LOOK AT OFFENSIVE POINTS PER DRIVE MINUS DEFENSIVE POINTS ALLOWED PER DRIVE.

IT’S LIKE 2.7 NET, WHICH IS AN INSANE NUMBER.

THEY WERE GREAT.

OBVIOUSLY THE 2021 TEAM WAS GREAT, HAD A BUNCH OF INDIVIDUAL MOMENTS, KILLED A BUNCH OF TEAMS, CERTAINLY WIN A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ON ONE OF THOSE HUGE MOMENTS WITH KELEE RINGO AND THE PICK SIX IN THEIR REVENGE SPOT AGAINST ALABAMA, WHO TO WHOM THEY LOST THE SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME RIGHT BEFORE THAT.

YOU HAVE 2019 LSU. – I WAS GONNA SAY 2019 LSU FOR ME.

AND I KNOW IT IS MOSTLY ON THE BACK OF JOE BURROW IN THAT OFFENSE, BUT THE WAY THAT THEY RIPPED THROUGH TEAMS IN THE PLAYOFF WAS I THINK PRETTY NOTABLE.

THEY PUT UP 63 ON CLEMSON TO WIN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

THEY WON IN RESOUNDING FASHION OVER OKLAHOMA IN THE SEMIFINALS AS WELL.

NOBODY EVER CAME, WELL, I SHOULD SAY EVER, BUT NOBODY CAME, WHEN THE RUBBER REALLY MET THE ROAD IN THE PLAYOFFS AND SOME OF THOSE BIG GAMES, THIS WAS LSU ASSERTING ITS DOMINANCE.

AND OBVIOUSLY JOE BURROW WON THE HEISMAN THAT YEAR. – RIGHT. – THAT WAS JUST SUCH A ONCE IN A GENERATION TEAM THAT FOR ME, IT’S HARD NOT TO PUT THEM NUMBER ONE. – THE VIBES ARE HARD TO TOP. – YEAH. – IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL DATA, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF NFL PLAYERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL, THERE ARE INTERESTING CASES FOR OTHER TEAMS LIKE 2021 GEORGIA, LIKE 2021, 2020 BAMA WITH MAC JONES BEING EXTRAORDINARY, OBVIOUSLY DEVONTA SMITH BEING LIKELY THE BEST RECEIVER OF THE MODERN ERA IN TERMS OF HIS CASUAL DOMINANCE, SARK CALLING THE PLAYS FOR THAT ALABAMA OFFENSE, CASUALLY JUST ALSO WALKING TO A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP WIN AGAINST I BELIEVE OHIO STATE AFTER BEATING NOTRE DAME IN THE SEMI THAT YEAR.

AND SO THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THAT ALABAMA YEAR, THAT YEAR’S TEAM AND THE, I MEAN, LOOK, YOU LOOK AT THE RECEIVERS ON THE LSU TEAM, IT’S MATCHED IN TERMS OF THE COLLEGE PERFORMANCES AND BRIGHT SHINING TALENT OF ALABAMA.

SO IT’S RUGGS, JEUDY, DEVONTA SMITH, AND WHO AM I FORGETTING?

JAYLEN WADDLE. – JAYLEN WADDLE, YEAH. – RIGHT, SO YOU HAVE SUPERSTAR POWER AT RECEIVER FOR BOTH OF THOSE TEAMS, NAJEE HARRIS IN THE BACKFIELD, CLYDE EDWARDS-HELAIRE FOR LSU, JOE BURROW CERTAINLY HAS ESTABLISHED HIMSELF AS AN NFL QUARTERBACK ON A LEVEL THAT MAC JONES HAS NOT, MAC JONES IS NOW A BACKUP, I BELIEVE FOR THE JAGS IN THE NFL.

YEAH, AT LEAST FOR A YEAR HE’LL BE A BACKUP.

SO JOE BURROW CERTAINLY HAS GROWN AS A NAME MORE THAN ALABAMA HAS AND STETSON BENNETT, CERTAINLY A TERRIFIC COLLEGE QUARTERBACK, BUT HASN’T BEEN A FACTOR IN THE NFL.

I KIND OF LIMIT IT TO THOSE THREE TEAMS.

AND I DON’T KNOW IF THERE’S A TEAM, WHETHER YOU LOOK AT LIKE 2014 OHIO STATE WITH THE WAY THEY FINISH OUT THE YEAR, BUT LIKE YOU COMPARE CARDALE JONES AGAINST, WHO WAS GREAT, WAS ABSOLUTELY GREAT, BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP AND CERTAINLY THE ALABAMA GAME, WITH GREAT CLEMSON TEAMS, DESHAUN WATSON, TREVOR LAWRENCE, BUT IN TERMS OF, AND THIS IS SUBJECTIVE, ELECTRIC VIBES, I THINK WHAT LSU DID, AND I ACTUALLY, AND JUST IN LOOKING AT THE PLAYOFF, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THEY DID AGAINST OKLAHOMA IN THE FIRST HALF OF THAT SEMI? – YEAH, THEY DESTROYED THEM. – THEY SCORED 50 POINTS. – THEY DESTROYED THEM. – I THINK IT WAS 49 POINTS IN THE FIRST HALF.

AND WHEN IT GETS TO BE THAT CARTOONISH, IT JUST RESONATES WITH ME.

SO IT’S OBVIOUSLY A SUBJECTIVE ANSWER.

IF YOU’RE A GEORGIA FAN, IF YOU’RE A FAN OF HUGE DEFENSIVE FOOTBALL AND YOU SAY 2021 GEORGIA IS NOT LOSING ANY OF THESE GAMES, THAT’S FINE.

GEORGIA DID LOSE. – GEORGIA LOST TO SOUTH CAROLINA IN DOUBLE OVERTIME. – THERE WERE FOUR BIG UPSETS. – NO, I’M TALKING ABOUT 2021 GEORGIA LOST TO- – OH, 2021 YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. – LOST ALABAMA IN THE SEC CHAMPIONSHIP. – I’M TALKING 2019. 2019 WAS A BIG YEAR ACROSS THE BOARD.

IT WASN’T JUST LSU AND THE GENERATIONAL SEASON, BUT GEORGIA LOST DOUBLE OVERTIME, SOUTH CAROLINA, THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.

WISCONSIN, I DON’T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER WISCONSIN LOSING AS LIKE A 31 POINT FAVORITE TO ILLINOIS.

YOUR OREGON DUCKS LOST ON THE ROAD TO ASU. – DON’T REMEMBER THAT ONE. – NO, OF COURSE NOT.

AND NUMBER FIVE, OKLAHOMA LOST ON THE ROAD AS A 23 AND A HALF POINT FAVORITE AGAINST I BELIEVE KANSAS STATE.

IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT THIS WAS ALL- – YEAH, THIS WAS ALL UNDERPINNED BY THE ALSTON LAWSUIT, NOT TO GET TOO GOOEY WITH THE LEGALESE HERE. – NO, YOU’RE KNOWN FOR YOUR GOOEYNESS, CONTINUE. – BUT THE ALSTON LAWSUIT WAS WHAT PAVED THE WAY FOR NIL.

IT WAS BUILT ON THE BACK OF THE ED O’BANNON LAWSUIT THAT HAD COME DOWN, I THINK A FEW YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, BUT THAT ULTIMATELY SORT OF CHANGED THE WAY THAT COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS VIEWED NOW.

IT PUT US IN A SENSE DOWN THIS PATH OF NIL AND THE TRANSFER PORTAL AND MONEY.

AND WELL, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT ON A SEPARATE PODCAST. 2019 BY ANY MEASURE WAS A REALLY MOMENTOUS YEAR IN THE SPORT. – AND A CRAZY ENDING, BY THE WAY.

I MEAN, THAT’S WHY ALABAMA’S 2019 SQUAD ISN’T IN THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE THEY WERE INCREDIBLE.

THEY LOSE A SHOOTOUT TO LSU AND THEN THEY LOSE TO AUBURN.

MAC JONES AT THAT POINT HAD TAKEN OVER TWO AGAINST HER, I BELIEVE AGAINST MISSISSIPPI STATE.

MAC JONES OUTPERFORMS BO NIX WHEN HE’S COMPLETING PASSES TO ALABAMA PLAYERS, BUT HE ALSO THROWS TWO PICK SIXES, WHICH ULTIMATELY ICED THE GAME FOR AUBURN.

SO YEAH, YOU’RE RIGHT, 2019 WAS BONKERS. – 2019 WAS BONKERS. 2023 WAS BONKERS IN A SENSE TOO. – SURE. – MICHIGAN WINS 34-13 OVER NUMBER TWO WASHINGTON, THE BATTLE OF MICHIGAN VERSUS MICHAEL PENIX IN THIS CRAZY RUN THAT THE HUSKIES WENT ON WITH THEIR OFFENSE, PRIMARILY THEIR OFFENSE, KEY MOMENTS ON DEFENSE THAT CATAPULTED THEM, GOT THEM TO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

WE’VE HAD THIS QUESTION BEFORE ABOUT WHERE MICHIGAN RANKS IN THE PECKING ORDER HERE.

MICHIGAN, I THINK, WAS A DIFFERENT KIND OF TEAM THAN SOME OF THE ONES, CERTAINLY THAN 2019 LSU. – YEAH. – BUT I THINK THE WAY THAT MICHIGAN PULLED TOGETHER AND THE WAY THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO KIND OF ASSERT THEIR WILL ON TEAMS SHOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN IN THIS CONVERSATION.

THEY MIGHT NOT BE NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, OR NUMBER THREE, BUT I THINK THEY’RE CERTAINLY IN THE TOP FIVE HERE AS WE LOOK BACK BECAUSE OF THEIR ABILITY TO DO, IN ESSENCE, THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

TEAMS KNEW WHAT WAS COMING AND THEY STILL COULD NOT STOP IT FROM THE MICHIGAN SIDE OF THINGS.

NEVERMIND THE WHOLE CONNOR STALIONS THING.

I MEAN, I KNOW MICHIGAN FANS DON’T LIKE TO HEAR US TALK ABOUT THAT AND THAT’S FINE. – RIGHT. – BUT THEIR ABILITY TO DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, SEEMINGLY, FRUSTRATING THE HELL OUT OF OPPONENTS WAS REALLY, REALLY NOTABLE IN MY MIND.

LIKE AS A YANKEE FAN, THE WAY THAT MARIANO RIVERA WOULD COME IN AND BASICALLY THROW ONE SPEED, IT WASN’T ALWAYS ONE PITCH, BUT IT WAS ONE SPEED THE ENTIRE TIME, AND BE DOMINANT.

FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE THAT WITH MICHIGAN THIS PAST SEASON.

YOU KNEW WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO.

THERE WERE NUANCES, THERE WERE WRINKLES HERE AND THERE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT WAS, WE’RE GONNA HAND THE BALL OFF, WE’RE GONNA BASH YOUR BRAINS IN.

IT’S MOSTLY BASED ON WHAT WE CAN DO ON THE GROUND AND PLAYING KILLER DEFENSE.

AND THEY DID THAT TO GREAT EFFECT.

THEY’D BEEN BUILDING FOR TWO YEARS PRIOR AND THEY FINALLY WERE ABLE TO GET OVER THE HUMP THIS PAST SEASON.

THAT’S, I THINK, AN ACCOMPLISHMENT. – HUGE. – WATCHING THEM KIND OF GO THROUGH THE ADDED ELEMENTS OF HAVING COACHES SUSPENDED, LIKE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS OFF-FIELD CONTROVERSY, THE WAY THEY PULLED TOGETHER, THAT SHOULD NOT BE OVERLOOKED AS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION WHEN WE’RE TALKING ABOUT SUPERLATIVES. – NO, I THINK THAT THE THINGS YOU HOLD AGAINST MICHIGAN AREN’T FULLY THEIR FAULT, RIGHT?

THE BIG TEN WAS KIND OF HOT GARBAGE THIS YEAR.

AND SO JUST IN TERMS OF FUN ELECTRIC VIBES, YOU’RE NOT GETTING THAT FROM MICHIGAN.

IT’S NOT LIKE THEIR TEAM WAS BUILT FOR THAT ANYWAY, BUT THE BIG TEN WAS TERRIBLE.

THE SCHEDULE WAS LARGELY TERRIBLE.

AND MICHIGAN DID NOT GET LUCKY.

THEY WON THESE GAMES, BUT THEY PLAYED AGAINST A PROBABLE NON-NFL QUARTERBACK AT ALABAMA, WHICH IS A RARE FEAT.

AND THEN A WASHINGTON TEAM, WHICH HAD A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER OFFENSE, BUT NOT DEFENSE, AND MICHIGAN CAN’T CONTROL WHO THEY PLAY.

I THINK MICHIGAN, AS A UNIT, WOULD HANG WITH THE VERY BEST OF THIS LIST.

GEORGIA, AND YOU HOLD IT A LITTLE BIT AGAINST THEM ‘CAUSE THEY DID PLAY A PLAYOFF GEORGIA TEAM AND DIDN’T BELONG ON THE SAME FIELD RELATIVELY RECENTLY.

NOT THAT THE ROSTER WAS EXACTLY THE SAME.

EVERY YEAR IS ITS OWN LITTLE ECOSYSTEM, ITS OWN LIVING, BREATHING THING.

BUT WE DID SEE MATCH-UPS WITH WHAT MICHIGAN WANTED TO DO WITH JIM HARBAUGH AND SOME OF THESE ASSISTANT COACHES AGAINST THE BEST OF THE SEC WASN’T ALWAYS PRETTY.

SO YOU DON’T KNOCK THE 2023 TEAM FOR THAT, BUT IT SORT OF ENTERS INTO YOUR BRAIN A LITTLE BIT IF YOU’RE SAYING, HOW WOULD THE 2023 TEAM COMPARE AGAINST 2021 GEORGIA?

OR HOW WOULD THE 2023 TEAM COMPARE AGAINST 2019 LSU OR 2020 ALABAMA?

YOU’RE LIKE, MM, THEY COMPARED FAVORABLY AGAINST WASHINGTON AND THIS YEAR’S ALABAMA.

BUT I DON’T KNOW. – I’M STILL A LITTLE BIT MIFFED THAT THEY LOST TCU.

FOR AS GOOD AS THE TCU STORY WAS IN THE 2022 SEASON, TCU DID NOT BELONG IN THE SAME FIELD AS GEORGIA IN THAT NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. – 65-7, FINAL SCORE. – LOST BY 58 POINTS.

I REMEMBER WE WERE DOING THE LIVE STREAM DURING THAT AND WE WERE OUT OF STUFF TO TALK ABOUT PRETTY EARLY ON IN THAT GAME.

I FELT HORRIBLY FOR, WELL, NOT HORRIBLY, BUT I FELT FOR CHRIS FOWLER AND KIRK HERBSTREIT AND ANYONE DOING AN ON-AIR LIVE BROADCAST FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE JUST WAS NOT MUCH TO TALK ABOUT. – IT HAPPENED PRETTY QUICKLY TOO. – IT HAPPENED QUICKLY.

IT WAS A FLASH FRY.

IT WAS JUST OVER BEFORE IT STARTED.

I’M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DIDN’T GET TO SEE THE GEORGIA-MICHIGAN MATCHUP BECAUSE I REMEMBER IN THE BUILDUP TO THAT GAME, OR IN THE BUILDUP TO THE PLAYOFF GAMES, A LOT OF OUR COMMENTARY CENTERED AROUND THE FACT THAT BOTH GEORGIA AND MICHIGAN PLAYED A VERY SIMILAR STYLE.

AND IT WOULD BE, THERE WERE ONE, TWO GOING INTO THAT PLAYOFF.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY INTRIGUING TO SEE HOW GEORGIA AND MICHIGAN WOULD HAVE MATCHED UP COMPARED TO ONE ANOTHER.

I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT GAME THAN WHAT WE ENDED UP SEEING IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

I’LL DO CREDIT TO GEORGIA.

THEY WERE THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THE COUNTRY FOR A REASON.

THEY WON THAT GAME GOING AWAY.

BUT I’M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED WE DIDN’T GET TO SEE MICHIGAN IN THAT MATCHUP. – RIGHT.

ANOTHER TEAM I WOULD PUT IN THIS CONVERSATION, AND I’M STILL GONNA GO WITH 2019 LSU JUST BECAUSE THE ELECTRIC VIBES, WHICH IS THE NAME OF A DAD BAND I’M ACTUALLY PUTTING OUT, THE ELECTRIC VIBES WERE VERY BAD.

POOR SONG SELECTION, OUT OF TUNE, YOU NAME IT.

2018 CLEMSON.

SO 2018 CLEMSON WINS A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GOING AWAY.

I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WATCHED IT FROM A HOSPITAL BED WHEN MY WIFE ACCIDENTALLY ATE WALNUTS AND HAD AN ALLERGIC REACTION DURING THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP THAT I WATCHED ON AN IPAD. – HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF US. – 44-16.

GAME IS BASICALLY NEVER IN DOUBT.

THIS WAS THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE COUNTRY.

CLEMSON HAD A BRENT VENABLES DEFENSE.

IT WAS A TOP 10 OFFENSE.

TREVOR LAWRENCE IS A FRESHMAN.

TRAVIS ETIENNE, I BELIEVE THIS IS JUSTIN ROSS.

TEE HIGGINS, IF I’M GETTING MY YEARS CORRECT.

THEY HAVE WINTER WONDERS AT RECEIVER.

IT WAS ALMOST THE REASON WHY WE COINED THAT TERM, WINTER WONDERS, THAT CLEMSON’S RECEIVERS, MAYBE AMARI RODGERS ON THIS TEAM, IF MEMORY SERVES, POST-JORDAN LEGGETT, PERHAPS, BUT THESE GUYS WERE JUST LIKE, YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY DBS, AND CLEMSON JUST HAS THIS UNLIMITED ARMORY OF RECEIVERS.

AND THAT SEEMED TO BE SUCH A DIFFERENCE MAKER WHEN THESE GUYS WERE GOING UP AND MAKING PLAYS.

MIKE WILLIAMS IN THIS ERA OF CLEMSON, AND THEY WERE JUST BODYING ALABAMA DBS LEFT AND RIGHT.

AND OBVIOUSLY CLEMSON HAS THE HISTORY WITH ALABAMA IN THESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES, GOING BACK AND FORTH IN WHAT, 15 AND 16 TEAMS.

BUT YEAH, THE 2018 TEAM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE DEFENSIVE LINE WAS, THE AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE UP FRONT FOR CLEMSON, IT MIGHT BE EASY, AND I’LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, ONLY EASY FOR ME TO SORT OF OVERLOOK CLEMSON NOW BECAUSE OF HOW THEY’VE FALLEN OFF THESE PAST FEW YEARS, BUT THOSE TEAMS WERE DEATH. – SO THE VERY FIRST ONE WAS THE CARDALE JONES GAME.

THAT WAS OHIO STATE, OREGON.

I BELIEVE I WAS IN YOUR PRESENCE AFTER YOU GOT BACK FROM THIS GAME. – YEAH, I WENT TO THIS ONE WITH SPENCER HALL, YEAH.

I WAS THERE, WE DID A– – JERRY WORLD. – WE DID A POST-SHOW, YEAH, IN TEXAS.

BUT BEYOND THAT, THE SEESAW BETWEEN ALABAMA AND CLEMSON FROM 2015 THROUGH 2016, 2017, 2018, WE HAD A GOOD LITTLE STRETCH THERE WHERE THESE TEAMS WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH.

OUTSIDE OF THOSE FOUR GAMES, MOST OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES THAT WE’VE SEEN HAVE NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY CLOSE.

EVEN THE ONE IN 2018, THE TREVOR LAWRENCE GAME THAT YOU MENTIONED WHEN HE WAS A TRUE FRESHMAN AND CAME IN AFTER STARTING THE YEAR BEHIND KELLY BRYANT, CLEMSON WON THAT GAME 44-16 OVER ALABAMA.

WE DID HAVE A NICE LITTLE STRETCH THERE THOUGH.

2015, ALABAMA WINS 45-40 OVER NUMBER ONE CLEMSON. 2016, NUMBER TWO CLEMSON GETS REVENGE OVER ALABAMA, 35-31.

2017, ALABAMA OVER GEORGIA, 26-23.

THAT WAS THE TWO-A GAME WHERE HE CAME IN AT HALFTIME, THAT WAS AN OVERTIME GAME.

OUTSIDE OF A NICE LITTLE RUN THERE, MOST OF THESE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES HAVE NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY CLOSE. – SO IN MY BEST-LOOKING SUPERLATIVE, I HAVE 2019 LSU, 2020 BAMA, 2018 GEORGIA, 2018 CLEMSON, 2021 GEORGIA, AND I HAVE IT DOWN HERE, BO SCARBOROUGH JUST IN GENERAL.

BECAUSE I REMEMBERED HIM LOOKING ABSOLUTELY JACKED, WENT BACK AND LOOKED IT UP, WAS CORRECT.

SO BEST-LOOKING JUST IN GENERAL.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE 2016 ALABAMA WIN OVER WASHINGTON.

HE HAD A HUGE RUN.

ALABAMA HOLDS WASHINGTON, I THINK, JUST SEVEN POINTS.

JAKE BROWNING WAS BEAT UP, I THINK, HEADING INTO THAT GAME AND JUST DIDN’T HAVE THE ARM.

BUT THE WASHINGTON DEFENSE WAS GREAT THAT YEAR.

SO I THINK THAT WAS THE YEAR WHERE I SAID, “I DON’T SEE A LOSS ON THIS SCHEDULE.”

THEY DID LOSE TO SAM DARNOLD AND USC, BUT THEY DID DROP 70 ON OREGON IN A WINNING EFFORT IN AUTZEN WITH JAKE BROWNING POINTING TO AN OREGON PLAYER AS HE RAN IN A TOUCHDOWN.

ONE OF THE TOUCHDOWNS, ULTIMATELY ONE OF THE PIECES THAT GOT MARK HELFRICH FIRED AT OREGON, HIRING WILLIE TAGGART FOR A YEAR. – FOR A YEAR. – BUT YEAH, THAT WAS MY BO SCARBOROUGH REFERENCE THAT I WANTED TO GET IN THERE.

WHAT ABOUT WORST?

I WANNA SAY WORST TEAMS, ‘CAUSE THESE ARE ALL PLAYOFF TEAMS.

SO I LIKE WORST-LOOKING FOR PLAYOFF PERFORMANCES, PLAYOFF TEAMS, WHATEVER.

I HAVE DOWN HERE, OKAY, OREGON’S LINEBACKERS AGAINST OHIO STATE.

ZEKE ELLIOTT, BY THE WAY, RUSHED FOR NEARLY 500 YARDS AGAINST ALABAMA AND OREGON ON THAT 2014, RIGHT?

THE BRENT MUSBURGER THROUGH THE HEART OF THE SOUTH, WHENEVER IT WAS 72 YARDS THROUGH THE HEART OF THE SOUTH.

I HAVE FLORIDA STATE QUITTING AGAINST OREGON AND LOSING THAT GAME BY 40.

THAT WAS THE JAMEIS WINSTON SLIP FUMBLE.

TONY WASHINGTON RUNS IT 60 YARDS BACK.

I WAS IN THE STADIUM FOR THAT.

THAT WAS GREAT.

I HAVE THE BIG TEN/MICHIGAN STATE/MIDWEST, IF YOU INCLUDE NOTRE DAME, STREAK, AND I CALCULATED THE DAYS.

IT WAS 1811 DAYS BETWEEN MIDWESTERN TOUCHDOWNS IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FINAL TOUCHDOWN SCORED BY OHIO STATE AGAINST OREGON UNTIL I THINK OHIO STATE LOST 29-23 AGAINST CLEMSON 2021.

I’LL GET THE YEAR WRONG.

IT’S OKAY.

AND THEN 2,181 DAYS BETWEEN BIG TEN/MIDWESTERN WINS, PLAYOFF WINS BETWEEN OHIO STATE, I BELIEVE BEATING CLEMSON IN A SEMI AND OHIO STATE BEATING OREGON IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

SO NOTRE DAME LOSES 30-3 TO CLEMSON. – 30-3 AND I BELIEVE 31-14 TO ALABAMA.

SO THEY’VE HAD TWO PLAYOFF APPEARANCES AND SCORED 17 POINTS. – SO THEY SCORED POINTS, YES.

AND THEN MICHIGAN STATE 38-0 AGAINST ALABAMA.

THAT IS THE FIRST PLAYOFF, I BELIEVE. – YEAH, YEAH. – NO, SORRY, SECOND PLAYOFF.

ALABAMA BEATS OHIO STATE AND THEN SEE, WE’RE VERY DUMB PEOPLE. 38-0, THAT YEAR’S MICHIGAN STATE TEAM, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD TEAM.

IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD TEAM.

THEY BEAT IOWA STATE 16-13 IN THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

IT’S A CONNOR COOK, MICHIGAN STATE TEAM, PROBABLY WAS IN A POSITION TO LOSE TO PURDUE, PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE LOST TO OREGON, BUT THEY MAKE IT THERE, KIND OF BEHIND, WELL NOT KIND OF BEHIND, AN IMPRESSIVE WIN AGAINST OHIO STATE IN WHICH OHIO STATE DECIDED NOT TO GIVE THE BALL TO ZEKE ELLIOTT, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT. 17-13 LOSS, WHERE ZEKE GOT 12 TOUCHES, I WANNA SAY.

SO MICHIGAN STATE GETS IN THERE AND THEY SCORE PRECISELY ZERO POINTS. – I THINK MICHIGAN STATE’S A TEAM I THOUGHT OF FIRST WHEN YOU MENTIONED THIS. – YEAH, OKAY. – AND TO THEIR CREDIT, THAT WAS A VERY GOOD MICHIGAN STATE TEAM, AS YOU SAID, BUT THEY DID SORT OF RUN INTO A BIT OF A BUZZSAW, RIGHT?

I MEAN, THEY WERE PLAYING AGAINST ALABAMA, THAT ALABAMA TEAM WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

CLEMSON WAS ALSO IN THE MIX THERE.

IT WAS RIGHT IN THE THROES OF THIS CLEMSON-ALABAMA RIVALRY OF SORTS.

AND THERE WERE A BUNCH OF TEAMS THAT SORT OF GOT THROWN TO THE SIDE AMID THAT.

OKLAHOMA IS ONE OF THEM.

YOU MENTIONED MICHIGAN STATE, WASHINGTON, WE COULD THROW WASHINGTON IN THERE, EVEN OHIO STATE TO SOME EXTENT.

TEAMS THAT NOTRE DAME, RIGHT?

TEAMS THAT WERE ALSO VYING TO TRY AND GET THEIR MOMENT IN THE SUN, BUT JUST COULDN’T BECAUSE ALABAMA, CLEMSON WERE GOING THROUGH THEIR HEYDAYS.

WHAT ELSE JUMPED OUT TO YOU?

YOU WENT BACK THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND BO SCARBOROUGH MAYBE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, BUT I LOOKED THROUGH JUST TO TRY AND GET CONTEXT FOR WHERE SOME OF THESE SEASONS WERE INTERESTING.

AND OF COURSE IT CULMINATES WITH THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, BUT I FIND MOMENTS LIKE 2017, IOWA PUT UP 55 ON OHIO STATE. – YEAH, THAT HELPED KEEP THEM OUT, YEAH. – IF IOWA PUT UP 55 ON OHIO STATE IN 2024, WHAT THAT– – PEOPLE WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD BE WOMEN’S BASKETBALL. – I MEAN, HOW FAR WE’VE FALLEN AS AN OFFENSIVE UNIT. – YEAH, AND THEIR OFFENSE, I DON’T THINK WAS EVEN THAT GREAT THAT YEAR.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK UP THE SCORES.

I THINK IT WAS SORT OF LIKE A WEIRD, JUST THE STARS ALIGNED ON A RANDOM SATURDAY WITH NATE STANLEY AND IOWA, BUT YEAH, THAT HELPED TO KEEP OUT A VERY GOOD OHIO STATE TEAM OUT.

SO I BELIEVE THEY STARTED THAT YEAR, THAT WAS THEY LOSE TO OKLAHOMA WITH, AS WE REMEMBER, BAKER MAYFIELD DOES WHAT AT THE END OF THAT GAME?

PLANTS A BIG OLD FLAG AT MIDFIELD IN COLUMBUS.

SO IT’S TOUGH TO LOSE.

I MEAN, LOOK, OKLAHOMA WAS A PLAYOFF TEAM THAT YEAR.

WE HAVEN’T EVEN MENTIONED THAT OKLAHOMA, THAT SEASON PROBABLY PLAYED IN, DEPENDING ON YOUR PREFERENCE FOR GAME STYLE, THE MOST MEMORABLE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF GAME WE’VE HAD IN THE GEORGIA, OKLAHOMA, ROSE BOWL SEMI, JUST AT AN ABSOLUTE SHOOTOUT THAT GEORGIA SOMEHOW COMES AWAY WITH A WIN.

UNTHINKABLE FOR GEORGIA TO PLAY IN THAT KIND OF GAME NOW, BUT A CRAZY ENTERTAINING GAME.

OKLAHOMA LOOKED CERTAINLY MUCH BETTER IN THE FIRST HALF.

GEORGIA HAS THE GREAT RUNNING BACKS.

IT’S A JAKE FROMM GEORGIA TEAM. – THAT’S RIGHT. – HE LEADS THEM TO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP VERY EARLY ON IN HIS CAREER, BUT NO, THAT WAS, IT WAS A CRAZY GAME.

I REMEMBER WATCHING THAT WITH, I THINK I WAS WATCHING IT WITH OUR FRIEND, BILL BARNWELL IN BROOKLYN, AND IT WAS JUST A STUNNER OF A TV SHOW.

COULDN’T HAVE ASKED FOR MORE, MOSTLY BECAUSE I WASN’T ROOTING FOR EITHER TEAM, I JUST WANTED ENTERTAINING FOOTBALL.

SO YEAH, THAT’S PROBABLY THE SINGLE GREATEST PERFORMANCE BY TWO TEAMS IN A GAME TO ME, JUST BECAUSE OF THE BACK AND FORTH NATURE, NOT BY DEFENSES, BUT BY THE BACK AND FORTH NATURE.

BY THE WAY, THAT WE’VE HAD TO HAVE LIKE A MIKE STOOPS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FOUR TEAM ERA THAT HE WAS LIKE HEAVILY INVOLVED, LIKE HIS FOOTPRINTS, HIS HANDPRINTS, WHATEVER, HIS FINGERPRINTS ARE HEAVILY ON THE FOUR TEAM ERA IS NOT A GREAT LOOK FOR THE FOUR TEAM ERA. – YEAH, I MEAN, ONE OTHER THING THAT JUMPS OUT TO ME AND LOOKING BACK, AND THIS IS ‘CAUSE I’M A HOMER, I’LL ADMIT IT, PENN STATE NOT GETTING INTO THE PLAYOFF DESPITE WINNING THE BIG TEN TITLE. – YEAH, THIS IS 2016. – THIS IS THE 2016 SEASON, SO THIS IS THE YEAR WHERE THEY HAD SORT OF THEIR OWN VERSION OF THE “KICK SIX” AND KNOCKED OFF OHIO STATE AT BEAVER STADIUM.

THEN THEY RIPPED OFF NINE STRAIGHT WINS, THEY WON THE BIG TEN TITLE GAME.

SAQUON BARKLEY ON PENN STATE, TRACE MCSORLEY, I MEAN, THIS IS IN THE JOE MOORHEAD ERA OF NITTANY LION FOOTBALL. – HUGE COMEBACK AGAINST WISCONSIN, RIGHT?

IN THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. – HUGE COMEBACK, I WAS AT MY FRIEND’S APARTMENT, WE WERE SCREAMING, PISSING OFF THE UPSTAIRS NEIGHBOR.

I MEAN, THOSE WERE THE DAYS FOR PENN STATE FOOTBALL WHEN THEY HAD SAQUON AND THEY WERE KIND OF GOING THROUGH IT.

AND I ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE WHAT THAT TEAM COULD HAVE DONE.

THE PLAYOFFS, OF COURSE, I’M A PENN STATE GRAD, SO IT’S EASIER FOR ME TO SAY, BUT– – BIG LOSE. – OHIO STATE GOT IN, THEY LOST TO CLEMSON THAT YEAR.

CLEMSON WENT ON TO WIN THE TITLE. – CLEMSON BEAT THEM 31-0? – KILLED ‘EM. – THAT WAS A SHUTOUT GAME. – KILLED ‘EM. – THAT WAS ALSO A PENN STATE TEAM THAT, ONE, THAT’S THE BREAKTHROUGH SEASON FOR JAMES FRANKLIN. – YEP. – TWO, OBVIOUSLY JOE MOREHEAD.

THREE, THAT’S WHEN WE, I THINK, COINED THE TERM F IT, GO DEEP FOR PENN STATE, IN THAT GAME ESPECIALLY, WHERE IT WAS, WAS IT CHRIS GODWIN?

WHO WERE THE RECEIVERS?

DAESEAN HAMILTON? – YEP, YEP. – FOR PENN STATE.

AND THEY PLAY IN A CRAZY MEMORABLE BOWL GAME AGAINST USC IN A LOSING EFFORT SHOOTOUT IN THE ROSE BOWL.

SO THAT’S THE YEAR BEFORE.

AGAIN, I’M SCREWING UP MY YEARS, I’M SURE.

BUT YES, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST TEAMS, I THINK, BECAUSE I DON’T THINK THE DEFENSE IS WHERE IT’S BEEN THESE LAST FEW YEARS FOR PENN STATE, BUT CERTAINLY A CRAZY GOOD, ENTERTAINING PENN STATE TEAM.

THEY BEAT OHIO STATE ON A BLOCKED FIELD GOAL. – THAT’S RIGHT.

BLOCKED FIELD GOAL RETURNED, YEAH. – IN, AT PENN STATE, IN HAPPY BACK. – AT PENN STATE. – YEAH, IN A WHITEOUT SITUATION.

SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE’S A BUNCH OF LIKE WEIRD OHIO STATE MOMENTS, LIKE, OH, THE 2015 TEAM WAS GREAT, BUT THEY LOST HERE.

THE, YOU KNOW, THERE’S A BUNCH OF INTERESTING OHIO STATE TEAMS THAT DIDN’T MAKE THE PLAYOFF BECAUSE THEY WERE FLAWED IN ONE VERY SPECIFIC WAY.

HERE’S WHAT I WOULD DO AS A DISGUSTING HOMER.

I WOULD PUT IN THE 2023 OREGON TEAM AS ONE OF THE BEST TEAMS TO NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFF.

THEY FINISHED NUMBER ONE IN NET POINTS PER DRIVE, AND THAT’S OBVIOUSLY AIDED BY THEIR BOWL GAME AGAINST LIBERTY, BUT WITH WHAT THEY DID TO THEIR SCHEDULE, LOSING TO WASHINGTON THE WAY THAT THEY DID, THEY HAD THEIR VERY SPECIFIC FLAW AS WELL, BUT I THINK THEY’RE ONE OF THE BEST TEAMS JUST BECAUSE ANCIENT QUARTERBACK, A FULL-ON GROWNUP AT QUARTERBACK, GOOD, YOU KNOW, A CRAZY TALENTED OFFENSE THAT SCORED A TON, A DEFENSE THAT TOOK A MAJOR STEP FORWARD AND SHUT DOWN SOME INTERESTING OFFENSES.

I WOULD PUT OREGON IN THAT CONVERSATION OF TEAMS WHO DIDN’T MAKE THE PLAYOFF THAT WERE WORTHWHILE.

AS WHAT I WOULD, GEORGIA THIS YEAR, BY THE WAY. – YEAH, HERE IS WHAT I WOULD ASK OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS, ‘CAUSE THIS IS A LITTLE STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS, RIGHT? – THAT’S OKAY, THAT’S WHY WE’RE HERE. – THAT’S WHY WE’RE HERE, THAT’S WHY IT’S THE OFF SEASON.

AND THAT’S WHAT THESE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS ARE BUILT FOR.

IF YOU’RE NOT WRITING IN TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE 14 TEAM PLAYOFF OR GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE 14 TEAM PLAYOFF, WRITE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, AND LET US KNOW BEST TEAM TO BE LEFT OUT OF THE PLAYOFF OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND BEST TEAM TO TAKE PART IN THE PLAYOFF OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, RIGHT?

SO REALLY BOTH SIDES OF THAT SPECTRUM.

ARE YOU A 2019 LSU GUY OR GAL?

I DON’T KNOW.

ARE YOU INTO 2023 MICHIGAN?

I SUSPECT A SEGMENT OF OUR BASE WOULD PROBABLY MAKE THAT CASE.

LET US KNOW, BEST TEAM, I DON’T WANNA KNOW YOUR TOP FIVE.

I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR TOP FIVE.

I WANNA KNOW YOUR TOP TEAM.

TOP TEAM AND TOP TEAM TO GET IN, TOP TEAM TO NOT GET IN.

SOLIDVERBAL AT GMAIL DOT COM, YOU CAN HIT US UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

LET US KNOW AGAIN WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THIS OR THE 14 TEAM OR WHATEVER YOUR ARGUMENT OF CHOICE IS, WE’D LOVE TO HEAR IT. – CAN I RAPID FIRE YOU AND YOU’RE JUST GONNA PICK? – GO AHEAD. – ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.

BEST PERFORMANCES BY A PLAYER.

OJ HOWARD GOING FOR 200 PLUS YARDS, WHICH WAS BASICALLY THE SAME NUMBER AS LIKE THE 10 PREVIOUS GAMES COMBINED FOR HIM. – CAME OUT OF NOWHERE, REMEMBER THAT? – YES, OUT OF COMPLETE NOWHERE, THAT’S JAKE COKER TO OJ HOWARD FOR 200 PLUS YARDS.

CLEMSON DIDN’T SEE IT COMING.

YOU ALSO HAVE A GREAT ONSIDE KICK IN AN ALABAMA CLEMSON GAME THAT WAS INCREDIBLE.

THAT’S A GREAT MOMENT.

ZEKE IN 2015 FOR 200 PLUS AGAINST OREGON, BASICALLY SINGLE-HANDEDLY WON THAT GAME WITH THE OHIO STATE OFFENSIVE LINE.

DESHAUN WATSON IN 2016, IF YOU REMEMBER BEING HELICOPTER, JUST I THINK HE HAD 70 TOTAL.

IT WAS LIKE 50 PASSES AND 20 RUNS, JUST LIKE WILLED THAT TEAM TO A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

DEVONTA SMITH IN 2020 AGAINST OHIO STATE. – YEAH, THAT WAS RIDICULOUS. – JUST RIDICULOUS.

IN TERMS OF LIKE SPECIFIC MOMENTS, THE NOTRE DAME KICKER WHO TIED THE GAME AT THREE FOR CLEMSON BEFORE– – WHAT AM I PICKING HERE?

AM I PICKING SOMETHING? – THE BEST MOMENT. – OH, THE BEST MOMENT, OKAY. – OR THE BEST PERFORMANCE, EXCUSE ME. – BEST PERFORMANCE. – BEST PERFORMANCE. – DESHAUN WATSON. – DESHAUN WATSON? – OUTSIDE OF JOE BURROW.

OUTSIDE OF JOE BURROW, WHO WAS JUST A BUZZSAW. – RIGHT. – THE WHOLE SEASON THROUGH. – OKAY. – DESHAUN WATSON.

DESHAUN WATSON LOSING A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP AND THEN COMING BACK THE NEXT YEAR AND WINNING A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, TO ME, IT WAS A PRETTY BIG MOMENT.

AND IT WAS CLEAR THAT, I MEAN, LOOK, WE’VE SEEN WHAT’S GOING ON WITH CLEMSON.

THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT WAS CLEAR THAT WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT THEY PUT FORTH, YOU NEEDED TO HAVE A SUPERSTAR QUARTERBACK TO RUN THAT SYSTEM.

YOU NEEDED TO HAVE PEOPLE AROUND AND YOU NEEDED TO HAVE THE DEFENSE AND ALL THAT.

YOU’RE NOT GONNA BEAT ALABAMA WITHOUT THOSE COMPLIMENTARY PIECES.

BUT WHAT DESHAUN WATSON WAS ABLE TO DO WAS PRETTY DAMN IMPRESSIVE IN MY BOOK. – OH, YEAH. – SO I GO BACK TO THE WATSON YEARS AS I GUESS 26 TO 2016 SEASON, TO ME AS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL LORE. – I AGREE.

I JUST WANTED TO OFFER YOU ONE MORE OPTION.

I DON’T THINK IT’LL CHANGE YOUR MIND, BUT I WAS GONNA SAY THE NOTRE DAME KICKER WHO TIED THE GAME AT THREE, NOTRE DAME CLEMSON BEFORE CLEMSON WENT ON A 27-0 RUN TO WIN THAT GAME. – THANK YOU, DAN.

THANK YOU. – DO YOU KNOW HIS NAME?

FOR $5, WHAT WAS THAT NOTRE DAME KICKER’S NAME? – IN WHAT YEAR? – LET’S CALL IT 2018, I DON’T KNOW. – THE NOTRE DAME KICKER. – 2019, 2018, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

WHEN NOTRE DAME LOSES THAT GAME, 30-3, 31-3, WHATEVER IT WAS, BUT IT WAS THREE ALL EARLY ON.

I THINK IT’S AN IAN BOOK TEAM. – IS THAT JUSTIN YOON? – IT’S JUSTIN YOON, FOLKS.

I OWE TY $5. – GIVE ME THE MONEY.

YOU CAN VENMO IT TO ME LATER. – YOUR VENMO WILL ARRIVE SHORTLY.

I ALSO HAVE BEST MOMENTS.

SO SPECIFIC PLAYS OR SPECIFIC PARTS OF GAMES, OKAY?

SO YOU HAVE THE DEVONTA SMITH CATCH TO WIN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, LSU DROPPING 50 AND A HALF.

HOW ABOUT A CHRISTIAN WILKINS FAKE PUNT CATCH?

YOU REMEMBER THAT? – THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. – THE CLEMSON PUNTER THROWING IT TO A DEFENSIVE TACKLE ON A FAKE PUNT.

AND THEN I’VE GOT A PICK SIX TO WIN A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP FOR GEORGIA. – I THINK THE KEELY RINGO MOMENT. – OVER DEVANTE SMITH. – YEAH. – AGAINST GEORGIA COVER TWO. – YEAH, BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT KEELY RINGO PICKING THAT OFF, AND IT WAS SUCH A NECK CRACK MOMENT FOR GEORGIA.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

AND IT WAS SUCH A NECK CRACK MOMENT, FRANKLY, FOR A LOT OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL FANS WHO DIDN’T WANT TO SEE ALABAMA WIN. – RIGHT. – THAT I THINK THAT’S IT FOR ME.

I THINK THAT’S THE MOMENT FOR ME.

I COULD BE TALKED OFF OF THAT PEDESTAL, BUT I THINK THAT’S THE ONE FOR ME. – WHO WAS, HERE’S ANOTHER $5 QUESTION.

WHO WAS THE FIRST, WE’LL END IT ON THIS.

WHO WAS THE FIRST COMMITTEE NUMBER ONE TEAM?

SO WE’RE TALKING ABOUT MID SEASON RANKINGS RELEASE AND WHATEVER IT WAS, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. – THE VERY FIRST TEAM TO BE NUMBER ONE. – THE VERY FIRST TEAM TO BE A COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF, TEMPORARY NUMBER ONE, NOT FINAL RANKINGS NUMBER ONE. – WOW. – IT’S AN UNUSUAL TEAM.

IT’S A TEAM THAT HAS NEVER MADE THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF. – YEAH. – LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE, 2014.

(SIGHS) – I KNOW ALL THE YEARS BLEND TOGETHER. – IS THAT FLORIDA STATE? – IT’S NOT FLORIDA STATE.

FLORIDA STATE DID MAKE THE PLAYOFF. – THEY DID MAKE THE PLAYOFF, YEAH. – YEAH. – RIGHT.

WOW.

I COULDN’T TELL YOU. – IT’S AN SEC TEAM THAT HAS NEVER MADE THE PLAYOFF.

LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE, 2014.

THE MISSISSIPPI STATE BULLDOGS. – THAT DAK? – DAK PRESCOTT. – THAT WAS DAK, WOW. – THE FIRST COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF, NUMBER ONE TEAM.

FOUR TEAM ERA, NUMBER ONE. – ALL RIGHT, LET’S END IT ON THAT.

GOOD QUESTION.

GOOD QUESTION.

RIGHT IN, YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH US.

HOPE YOU APPRECIATED THIS STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE, LOOKING AT THE FOUR TEAM PLAYOFF AND SOME OF THE SUPERLATIVES THEREIN.

HIT FOLLOW, HIT SUBSCRIBE, WHEREVER IT IS YOU GET THIS PODCAST.

THAT OF COURSE SUPPORTS THE SHOW MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE YOU COULD DO.

RIGHT IN, YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH US.

WE WANNA GET YOUR INPUT ON ALL OF THIS, DAN. – AGREE. – WE WILL TALK A LITTLE LATER THIS WEEK, YEAH? – YES, ABSOLUTELY. – IN THE MEANTIME, FOR THAT GUY OVER THERE, MY GOOD FRIEND, DAN RUBENSTEIN, FOR MYSELF, TY HILTON BRAND, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THIS HERE SOLID VERBAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL PODCAST.

WE WILL TALK TO Y’ALL SOON.

STAY SOLID. – PEACE. (UPBEAT MUSIC)

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