Episode Description

Like it or not, the College Football Playoff is set to expand to 12-teams starting in the 2024 college football season. In this college football podcast episode, Ty and Dan take a look at the new 5+7 CFP model for the expanded playoff and react to the format, schedule, and realities of CFB’s new world order. Plus, a discussion about the built-in advantages for Notre Dame in the new system.

WELCOME TO THE SOLID VERBAL.

THE SOLID VERBAL.

COME AFTER ME!

I’M A MAN!

I’M 40!

I’VE HEARD SO MANY PLAYERS SAY, WELL, I WANT TO BE HAPPY.

YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY FOR A DAY?

EAT A STEAK.

IT’S THAT WOO WOO!

AND NOW, DAN AND TY.

WELCOME BACK TO THE SOLID VERBAL, BOYS AND GIRLS.

MY NAME IS TY HILDENBRANDT, THAT FINE GENTLEMAN OVER THERE.

TO MY LEFT, AS YOU ARE WATCHING AT HOME, DAN RUBENSTEIN, SIR.

WELCOME BACK TO THE PODCAST, MY FRIEND.

HOW GOES IT?

IT’S PRETTY GOOD, TY.

EVEN THOUGH IT IS, YOU KNOW, WINTER TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE OFF SEASON, THERE’S ALWAYS STUFF TO TALK ABOUT.

AND I’M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT WAYS, RIGHT?

WE CAN JUICE UP THE SOLID VERBAL, RIGHT?

IN THE OFF SEASON, THE COLD MONTHS.

AND I GUESS TALKING ABOUT A FIVE PLUS SEVEN PLAYOFF SYSTEM IS OUR BEST BET RIGHT NOW.

I JUST WONDER, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN LEAK, TY?

I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THAT’S THE MOVE.

TO LEAK SOMETHING?

CAN WE LEAK SOMETHING?

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO LEAK?

THAT’S WHAT I’M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, TY.

COME ON.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE?

DO YOU HAVE, ARE THERE LIKE SOLID VERBAL TAPES THAT LIKE WE HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE OFF RECORD SAYING SOMETHING CRAZY?

WE NEED A LEAK RIGHT NOW.

I DON’T KNOW IF YOU HAVE IT.

I DO HAVE AN OLD CONVERSATION THAT WE DECIDED NOT TO RUN.

OK.

THAT I, BUT THERE’S NOTHING SCANDALOUS ON IT.

IT JUST WASN’T A GOOD INTERVIEW.

WHO WAS IT WITH?

I CAN’T SAY THAT.

WAS IT WITH HUNTER BIDEN?

IT WAS NOT.

NO, I’M JUST LOOKING AT LIKE THE TWITTER AND X.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES?

I WOULD GET THE ENGAGEMENT, BUT NO, I WOULD GET THE ENGAGEMENT.

AND I DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN EITHER WAY.

BUT I SOMETIMES LOOK AT THE SIDE OF X OR TWITTER, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT.

AND I’LL SEE A NAME AND BE LIKE, I DON’T KNOW WHO THIS IS.

I’M GOING TO CLICK THIS NAME.

AND THEN IT’S LIKE, OH, MAN, THERE ARE LEAK TAPES OF THIS DUDE OR OF THIS GAL AND JUST LIKE STILL DON’T KNOW WHAT THE TAPES WOULD BE OF.

STILL DON’T KNOW WHAT THIS PERSON IS, BUT LIKE FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND TWEETS ABOUT IT EXIST.

SO, TY, REALLY THINK ON WHAT WE CAN LEAK FROM A COLLEGE FOOTBALL OR JUST A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE THAT CAN JUICE UP THE SOLID VERBAL IN THESE COLD MONTHS.

WELL, IF I COULD.

YEAH.

YOU GAVE ME A BIT OF AN OPENING.

ONE THING THAT I DO THAT I DID KIND OF LEAK TO OUR PATREON VERBALLERHOOD.

I PUT TOGETHER LIKE A 15-MINUTE VIDEO SHOWING HOW I EDIT A PODCAST.

OH, TY, NOT LIKE THIS.

DOES THAT COUNT?

NO, NO.

IT’S GREAT CONTENT.

IT REALLY IS.

IF YOU WANT THE SECRET SAUCE OF TY’S, IT’S NOT THE SECRET SAUCE.

I’M NOT I’M NOT SO DUMB AS TO GIVE AWAY THE SECRET SAUCE, BUT I GAVE AWAY GOT AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF THE GAME ON HOW WE PUT ONE OF THESE TOGETHER.

OK, THAT’S COOL.

THAT’S A START.

BUT WE NEED TO GET WE NEED TO GET FIERY WITH THIS LEAK.

VERBALLERS.COM, OF COURSE, IS THE PATREON.

V-E-R-B-A-L-L-E-R-S DOT COM.

BONUS EPISODES, AD FREE CONTENT, DISCORD ACCESS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

IF WE HAVE ANY COACHING RUMORS, MAYBE WE’LL DROP THEM THERE.

WE DON’T HAVE ANY COACHING RUMORS AT THE MOMENT.

HOPEFULLY THE COACHING CAROUSEL IS DONE FREAKING SPINNING AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS.

YEAH, IT’S OFFSEASON.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE FIVE AND SEVEN MODEL.

NO, WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FLORIDA FOOTBALL.

OH, TY, WHY?

WHY?

DON’T DO IT LIKE THAT.

ON TUESDAY, WE HAD SOME NEWS.

THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF BOARD OF MANAGERS, APPARENTLY A THING, UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE FIVE PLUS SEVEN MODEL FOR THE NEW 12 TEAM PLAYOFF THAT, OF COURSE, STARTS THIS SEASON.

WE THOUGHT MAYBE WE WOULD TAKE SOME TIME HERE AND UNPACK EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

IT ALSO GIVES ME REASON TO PLAY THIS.

[MUSIC] IT’S NEW YEAR’S EVE WILL BE SO AWESOME.

THE STARS HAVE ALL ALIGNED.

SO MATCH YOUR JERSEYS AND COME ON.

BECAUSE NOW IT’S PLAYOFF TIME.

[END MUSIC] ALL RIGHT.

THAT’S ENOUGH OUT OF JIMMY.

YEAH, I DON’T KNOW IF THEY’LL RESURRECT THAT COMMERCIAL OR NOT, BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE A GAME THIS YEAR ON NEW YEAR’S EVE.

JUST ONE GAME WILL BE ONE OF THE QUARTERFINAL MATCHUPS, I BELIEVE THE FIESTA BOWL, THE VRBO FIESTA BOWL.

WE CAN TALK THROUGH THE SCHEDULE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY, DAN, THE FIVE PLUS SEVEN MODEL, THE TEAMS THAT WILL QUALIFY FOR THIS FIRST ROUND OF THE 12 TEAM PLAYOFF.

IS AS SUCH THE FIVE HIGHEST RANKED CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS AND THEN THE NEXT SEVEN HIGHEST RANKED TEAMS.

THE FIRST FOUR ARE THE HIGHEST RANKED FOUR CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS ARE GOING TO GET A FIRST ROUND BY.

THEN AFTER THAT, WE START TALKING ABOUT THE BRACKETS, RIGHT?

FIVE, SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT.

THOSE TEAMS ARE GOING TO GET A HOME PLAYOFF GAME ON THEIR RESPECTIVE CAMPUS.

A LOT OF TALK AS TO HOW THE GROUP OF FIVE OR WHATEVER THE GROUP OF FIVE IS NOW GOING TO BE CALLED FITS INTO ALL OF THIS.

WE CAN DISCUSS THIS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL HERE, DAN.

BUT NO BIG SURPRISES, RIGHT?

THIS WAS KIND OF IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE, OBVIOUSLY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE PAC-12 DISSOLVED MEANT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO REVISIT AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT WHO GETS INTO THE PLAYOFF AND WHO DOESN’T GET INTO THE PLAYOFF.

SO NOW THEY’VE SETTLED ON THIS.

THEY’VE SETTLED ON THE POWER FOR CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS.

LIKELY, LIKELY, RIGHT?

SO IT’S THE FIVE HIGHEST RANKED CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS.

SO IT’S LIKELY THOSE FOUR.

BUT YOU NEVER KNOW, I SUPPOSE, RIGHT?

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IN A 2021 SCENARIO WHERE CINCINNATI WON ITS CONFERENCE AND WAS RANKED VERY HIGHLY, THEY COULD BE ONE OF THOSE TEAMS THAT GETS A FIRST ROUND BY.

BUT IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, IT IS SHAPING UP TO BE IN MOST YEARS THE WINNER OF THE BIG TEN, SEC, BIG 12 AND ACC GETTING THAT FIRST ROUND BY BY VIRTUE OF THEIR CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP.

YEAH.

AND I THINK THE THE WASHINGTON STATE, OREGON STATE ELEMENT OF IT ALL, IF I IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IS THAT THE OREGON STATE, WASHINGTON STATE, PAC-12, WHATEVER WE’RE CALLING IT RIGHT NOW, HAD SORT OF ABSTAINED OR KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD IN TERMS OF VOTING ON FORMAT FOR A WHILE.

AND THEN YESTERDAY, I THINK IT’S HIS NAME IS KIRK SCHULZ, THE PRESIDENT OF WASHINGTON STATE.

WAZZU.

YEAH, HE’S HE’S IN WAZZU LEADERSHIP.

I DON’T KNOW, CHANCELLOR, PRESIDENT, WHATEVER.

HE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE FIVE AND SEVEN MODEL WITH THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE FAR EASIER FOR WASHINGTON STATE OR OREGON STATE TO GET INTO A 12 TEAM PLAYOFF AS ONE OF SEVEN AT LARGE TEAMS RATHER THAN SIX.

THAT’S RIGHT.

WHICH WAS THE OLD MODEL.

AND TO THAT, I SAY, GOOD LUCK.

GOOD LUCK.

GOOD LUCK.

GOOD LUCK.

WASHINGTON STATE AND OREGON STATE.

I KNOW OREGON STATE, I BELIEVE, HAS FOUR POWER CONFERENCE TEAMS ON THEIR SCHEDULE THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE MOUNTAIN WEST.

I BELIEVE THEY PLAY OREGON, CAL, PURDUE AND WAZZU.

SO THAT’S AT LEAST A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THERE.

I’M SURE IN BETTER YEARS GOING TO TRY AND SCHEDULE LIKE WHEN WE HAD INDEPENDENT BYU SCHEDULING THE NUMBER OF POWER FIVE TEAMS TO TRY TO IMPRESS A PLAYOFF COMMITTEE POTENTIALLY.

BUT THAT’S AN UPHILL BATTLE.

THAT’S GOING TO BE AN UPHILL BATTLE.

AND IT’S REALLY HARD TO SEE EITHER WASHINGTON STATE OR OREGON STATE MAKING THE PLAYOFF UNLESS IT’S AN UNDENIABLE UNDEFEATED YEAR TO GET ONE OF THOSE SPOTS IN ADDITION TO WHOEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, TULANE OR BOISE STATE, SAN DIEGO STATE, WHATEVER, WHOEVER WINS THE THE AMERICAN OR MOUNTAIN WEST OR SUN BELT, WHOEVER IS ABLE TO SECURE THAT.

IT’S GOING TO TAKE THAT.

AND GIVEN WHERE THEIR ROSTERS ARE AND GIVEN WHERE THEIR FINANCES ARE, I THINK THIS IS IT’S SORT OF A FOREGONE CONCLUSION THAT UNTIL ONE OF THOSE TEAMS OR BOTH OF THOSE TEAMS JOIN A BIGGER CONFERENCE, THEY’RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE IN THE PLAYOFF.

YEAH, BE VERY TOUGH TO GET IN.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

UM, WHERE THINGS STAND, THOUGH, I THINK JUST FROM A SCHEDULING STANDPOINT, FROM A FORMAT STANDPOINT, WE KNEW A LOT OF THIS ALREADY.

WE EXPECTED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO REVISE THE SYSTEM TO MORE OF THE FIVE AND SEVEN MODEL AS OPPOSED TO THE SIX AND SIX, WHICH YOU REFERENCED A MINUTE AGO.

THE WAY THINGS STAND NOW AS WE WALK WAY AHEAD INTO DECEMBER.

WHENEVER THAT FIRST WEEK OF GAMES WAS DURING BOWL SEASON, WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE BAHAMAS BOWL, THOSE TYPES OF GAMES THAT WEEKEND, THAT VERY FIRST WEEKEND IS WHEN YOU’RE GOING TO SEE THOSE FOUR ON CAMPUS PLAYOFF GAMES.

IT STARTS ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.

THERE ARE THREE GAMES THE NEXT DAY ON SATURDAY.

THEN THERE’S ABOUT A 10 DAY HOLDOVER.

YEAH.

CHRISTMAS, NEW YEAR’S ISH.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

YOU GET TO NEW YEAR’S EVE.

YOU’VE GOT ONE OF THE THREE QUARTER FINAL, ONE OF THE FOUR QUARTERFINALS.

EXCUSE ME, THE FIESTA BOWL, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.

AND THEN THE FOLLOWING DAY ON JANUARY THE 1ST, YOU’VE GOT THE CHICK-FIL-A, PEACH BOWL, THE ROSE BOWL AND THE ALLSTATE SUGAR BOWL.

EARLY AFTERNOON, LATE AFTERNOON, EVENING KICKOFF.

SO THREE QUARTER FINAL GAMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PLAYED ON NEW YEAR’S DAY.

THEN YOU’VE GOT ABOUT.

NINE, 10 DAYS AGAIN IN BETWEEN THE SEMIFINAL IS PLAYED TYPICALLY ON THAT WEEK WHEN WE WOULD PLAY THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

SO THEY BUMP IT OUT A FEW DAYS.

IT’S GOING TO BE A THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.

THIS IS VERY WEIRD.

TRY AND PLAY ALONG IN YOUR HEAD.

I’M SURE I CAN POST THE GRAPHICS SOMEWHERE OUT ON OUR ON OUR TWITTER ACCOUNT.

YEAH.

THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, THE NINTH AND TENTH, YOU’VE GOT YOUR TWO SEMIFINAL GAMES IN THE ORANGE BOWL AND IN THE COTTON BOWL.

AND THEN THERE’S ANOTHER 10 DAYS AFTER THAT.

THAT’S WHEN YOU’RE PLAYING YOUR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR, IT’S GOING TO BE IN MERCEDES BENZ STADIUM IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA, MONDAY, JANUARY THE 20TH.

SO THEY PUSH EVERYTHING OUT ABOUT 10 DAYS, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

WE’VE GOT AN EXTRA ROUND OR TWO IN THERE, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE TEAMS.

BUT IT BASICALLY STARTS WHEN THE BULLS START AND IT WILL BE THE BOOKEND TO BOWL SEASON AS WELL.

OVER THE SPAN OF ABOUT 40 DAYS OR SO.

I DON’T KNOW IF I COUNTED THAT RIGHT, BUT AT LEAST 30 DAYS TO A MONTH-ISH.

THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EXTENDED, DRAWN OUT PLAYOFF THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE.

SO WE CAN REACT TO THAT IF WE WANT TO.

I ALSO WANTED TO REACT A LITTLE BIT TO WHO WE THINK THIS BENEFITS AND WHAT THE EXPERIENCE MIGHT BE LIKE FOR US AS FANS, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE WONDERING WHAT’S THE PLAYOFF GOING TO LOOK LIKE?

HOW’S IT GOING TO WORK?

I THINK NOW WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SENSE FOR HOW IT’S GOING TO WORK.

I HAVE A GRAPHIC HERE THAT WE CAN MAYBE TALK THROUGH OF WHAT IT WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE THIS PAST SEASON AND HOW MAYBE THE RESULTS WOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE LOOKED DIFFERENTLY THAN THEN THAN THEY ENDED UP BEING.

WHERE ARE WE STARTING WITH THIS?

OBVIOUSLY, NOTRE DAME CAME UP AND THAT’S A REALLY EASY DISCUSSION POINT.

YOU MENTIONED THE CALENDAR.

I LOOKED AT WHILE YOU WERE SPEAKING, WHAT DECEMBER 2024 LOOKS LIKE.

I DON’T HAVE OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT’LL BE DECEMBER 18TH WILL BE THE EARLY SIGNING DAY.

SO TWO DAYS BEFORE.

OH, MY GOSH.

THAT FRIDAY NIGHT.

SO PRESUMABLY A NUMBER OF THOSE TEAMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE INAUGURAL 12 TEAM PLAYOFF ARE GOING TO BE.

THEY’LL PROBABLY HAVE ALREADY HAVE SECURED THEIR CLASS MOSTLY, BUT IT WILL STILL BE A STRESS POINT THAT WEEK AS THEY ARE PRACTICING TO PLAY IN THE FIRST ROUND OF THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF.

THAT’S GOING TO BE WILD.

THAT’S GOING TO BE WILD.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW TEAMS LIKE OHIO STATE, ALABAMA, GEORGIA, OREGON, ALL OF THESE TEAMS, OKLAHOMA, TEXAS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE PUTTING THEMSELVES IN POSITION TO BE IN THAT 12 TEAM PLAYOFF IN YEAR ONE.

THAT’S ALSO A VERY STRESSFUL TIME FOR THEM.

THE PORTAL WILL BE OPEN IN THIS TIME IF THE PORTAL WHAT THE PORTAL OPENS THE MONDAY AFTER CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP WEEKEND.

THAT’S RIGHT.

SO THIS WILL BE PORTAL TIME AS WELL.

THIS WILL BE BOWL PREP.

THIS WILL BE JUST POST FINALS, I BELIEVE.

SO THERE’S THAT.

THERE’S THE IDEA OF OUR KIDS PLAYING FOR PLAYOFF TEAMS.

ARE THEY GOING TO GET ANY SORT OF HOLIDAY BREAK IN THAT 10, 11 DAY WINDOW?

HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK EXACTLY?

IT’S A LONG TIME, BUT I SUPPOSE YOU CAN JUST HAVE KIDS STAY ON CAMP AND EMPTY CAMPUS.

ALL THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO EMPTY CAMPUSES PRACTICING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, NOT TERRIBLY DIFFERENT THAN BOWL PRACTICE IN SOME SCENARIOS.

AND THEN WE’RE GOING TO DOT THE GAPS BETWEEN THE WHAT?

THE TWENTY FIRST IS THE THREE GAMES, RIGHT?

TWENTY AND TWENTY FIRST, RIGHT BETWEEN THE TWENTY FIRST AND THIRTY FIRST WITH OTHER BOWL GAMES, NOT TO MENTION THE NFL’S REGULAR SEASON CONCLUDING, OBVIOUSLY, CHRISTMAS DAY IS A BIG NBA DAY NOW.

AND NOW THE NFL PLAYS ON CHRISTMAS DAY THAT.

THE THE WORRY FOR ME, AND THIS IS JUST IN TAKING IN THE CALENDAR IS LIKE.

COLLEGE BOWL PLAYOFF COULD GET LOST IN A SPORTS CALENDAR, AND IT DOESN’T REALLY BOTHER ME.

I’M GOING TO WATCH ALL THE GAMES DOESN’T REALLY BOTHER OUR LISTENERS.

EVERYBODY’S GOING TO WATCH AS MANY GAMES AS THEY’RE THEY’RE INTERESTED IN.

BUT I WONDER WHAT IT’S GOING TO DO FOR BIGGER PICTURE FOR THE SPORT WITH LIKE THAT 10 DAY BREAK AND THEN WHAT?

IT’S A MONTH BETWEEN THE FIRST GAME AND THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

SO SO YOU’RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF INVESTMENT TIME WISE MORE SO THAN I THINK WE HAVE SEEN IN A COLLEGE FOOTBALL POSTSEASON.

YEAH, I’D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW FROM THE VERBALLERHOOD HOW THEY HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT ALL THIS.

I MEAN, WE’VE BEEN DOING THIS SHOW SINCE 2008.

WE’VE BEEN AROUND A GOOD LONG TIME WITH THIS PODCAST.

AND TYPICALLY DECEMBER WAS THE MONTH WHEN THINGS START TO WIND DOWN.

RIGHT.

IF YOUR TEAM IS IN A BOWL GAME, YOU CARE ABOUT THE BOWL GAME.

SURE.

IF YOUR TEAM IS IN A MEANINGFUL BOWL GAME, YOU OBVIOUSLY CARE A LOT MORE.

BUT TYPICALLY DECEMBER IS THE MONTH WHERE PEOPLE KIND OF STRETCH THEIR LEGS A LITTLE BIT.

THEY’RE ABLE TO WATCH COLLEGE FOOTBALL MORE CASUALLY.

IT DEPENDS ON THE MATCHUP, DEPENDS ON THE BOWL GAME, DEPENDS ON, FRANKLY, WHEN THE GAME IS BEING PLAYED, BECAUSE PEOPLE’S LIVES TAKE THEM IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AFTER THREE MONTHS OF BEING FULLY COMMITTED TO COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

AT LEAST THAT’S HOW IT’S WORKED HERE IN THE VERBALLER HOOD.

RIGHT.

WHAT I THINK WE’RE SEEING NOW GRADUALLY IS BECAUSE OF THE PORTAL, BECAUSE OF COACHING MOVES, OPT OUTS, YEAH, BECAUSE OF OPT OUTS, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY SPACED OUT THE BOWL CALENDAR OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS SLOW CREEP BACK INTO DECEMBER.

WE HAVE SEEN MORE REASONS TO CARE ABOUT MEANINGFUL COLLEGE FOOTBALL INTO DECEMBER, INTO JANUARY, INTO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE SPOTS ON THE CALENDAR WHERE COLLEGE FOOTBALL DIDN’T USUALLY HAVE MUCH OF A MUCH OF A FOOTHOLD, AT LEAST NOT TRADITIONALLY.

NOW, HOW WILL THAT CHANGE WITH THIS?

I THINK REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

I EXPECT THAT INTEREST WILL BE EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH.

AT LEAST THE FIRST YEAR THAT THEY DO THIS.

I THINK HAVING MORE BIG MARKET BLUE BLOOD PROGRAMS PLAYING FOR A MEANINGFUL PRIZE LATE INTO THE SEASON WILL DEFINITELY DRIVE INTEREST.

AND SO YOU MAY HAVE SEEN I KNOW IT’S NOT LIKE OFFICIAL, BUT ESPN WAS WORKING WITH THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF TO TRY AND FINALIZE SOMETHING LIKE A SIX YEAR, SEVEN POINT EIGHT BILLION DOLLAR LICENSING DEAL WHEREBY THEY COULD NOT ONLY BROADCAST THESE GAMES ON THEIR NETWORK, BUT COULD ALSO SUB LICENSE OUT SO THAT OTHER PROVIDERS COULD MAYBE AMAZON, WHOEVER, IF THEY WANTED TO PUT A GAME ON THE AIRWAVES, THEY COULD THEY COULD DO SO AS WELL.

SO THAT THAT IS KIND OF IN THE WORKS.

IT IS NOT DONE YET.

THERE WAS SOME REPORTING.

IT SEEMED LIKE SOMEBODY JUMPED THE GUN ON IT, BUT IT IT’S HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION.

THERE’S A LOT OF MONEY ON THE LINE HERE, AND I THINK THEY SEE IT AS WELL.

RIGHT.

IF IF IN FACT, WE’VE GOT A GAME THAT FIRST BOWL WEEKEND WHERE TYPICALLY WE’RE LOOKING AT THE MYRTLE BEACH BOWL AND NOW WE’RE LOOKING AT A GAME BETWEEN PENN STATE AND OHIO STATE, AS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE CASE THIS YEAR, OR A GAME BETWEEN OLE MISS IN GEORGIA, MISSOURI AND OREGON, EVEN EVEN LIBERTY AND FLORIDA STATE.

THESE WOULD ALL HAVE BEEN MEANINGFUL GAMES IF WE DID IT THIS PAST SEASON.

CLEARLY, ESPN IS LOOKING AT THAT AND THEY’RE SAYING, ALL RIGHT, WE UNDERSTAND THERE’S GOING TO BE A TON OF FAN INTEREST IN THAT, ESPECIALLY NOW GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE WINNER OF THAT GAME, IT’S IT’S WIN AND GO THROUGH LOSE AND GO HOME.

WINNER OF THAT GAME IS GOING TO GO TO A QUARTERFINAL MATCHUP AGAINST ONE OF THE TOP FOUR.

LIKE THERE’S A LOT OF INTEREST, I THINK, WITH THE WAY THAT THAT THING IS SET UP.

WHAT I AM VERY CURIOUS, THOUGH, IS WHEN WE SEE THE DROP OFF IN INTEREST, BECAUSE COLLEGE FOOTBALL TYPICALLY HAS THAT RIGHT BEFORE IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER, BECAUSE IT’S REALLY JUST A MATTER OF THE HAVES AND THE HAVE NOTS.

NOW, I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER THE SEMIFINALS, AFTER THE QUARTERFINALS, AFTER THE FIRST ROUND OF THOSE GAMES ON CAMPUS.

BUT THAT, I THINK, IS SOMETHING THAT THE FOLKS WHO MONITOR TV RATINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I WOULD BE VERY CURIOUS TO SEE WHEN WE START SEEING THE INTEREST WANE A LITTLE BIT IN THIS.

I HOPE IT NEVER DOES.

I’M A HUGE PROPONENT OF A 12 TEAM PLAYOFF.

BUT I THINK THE THE NORMAL KIND OF BEHAVIOR OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL FANS HAS ALWAYS SHOWN THAT THERE IS A MOMENT IN THIS POSTSEASON WHERE PEOPLE START TO MOVE ON TO THE NFL OR SOMETHING ELSE.

AND SO TO YOUR POINT, YEAH, I COULD GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.

THERE’S SUDDENLY A VERY, VERY CROWDED SPORTS CALENDAR IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.

YEAH, I THINK IT’LL HAPPEN AFTER THE QUARTERS.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE USED TO THE NEW YEAR’S TIME AND THEN GOING TO, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ON A MONDAY NIGHT, YOU KNOW, JANUARY 8TH, 9TH, 10TH, 11TH, SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.

IT’S A THURSDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT.

THE SEMIS.

RIGHT.

THAT’S RIGHT.

I JUST I I THINK YOU’RE REALLY ASKING A LOT OF VIEWER HABITS.

I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING THAT.

THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT THE WAY ESPN AND THE PLAYOFF OR WHATEVER ARE APPROACHING THIS IN A VERY NFL WAY, LIKE THE NFL ALWAYS TESTS LIKE PEOPLE CAN’T GET ENOUGH.

WHAT IF WE PUT IT ON THURSDAY?

WHAT IF WE DID IT SATURDAY?

WHAT IF WE DO IT IN BRAZIL?

YEAH, RIGHT.

WHAT IF WE GO OVERSEAS?

WHAT LIKE AND WHAT IF WE ADD ANOTHER GAME?

17 GAMES HAS NOT AFFECTED INTEREST.

IF IF NOTHING ELSE, PEOPLE JUST CONTINUE TO NOT BE ABLE TO GET ENOUGH.

AND WITH HOW A RHYTHMIC THIS IS, THERE’S SOMETHING VERY RHYTHMIC ABOUT THE NFL CALENDAR THAT YOU PLAY FOR WHATEVER 18 STRAIGHT WEEKS IS THE REGULAR SEASON NOW.

NOW THERE’S NO TIME OFF BETWEEN THE SEASON AND THE PLAYOFF.

THERE’S A COUPLE OF WEEKS AT LEAST.

RIGHT.

YOU MIGHT NOT SEE A NOTRE DAME GAME BETWEEN LATE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER 21ST.

RIGHT.

SO YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THREE AND A HALF, FOUR WEEKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, POTENTIALLY.

I DON’T HAVE NOTRE DAME SCHEDULE IN FRONT OF ME.

SO NOTRE DAME WANT TO BE PREMIER NATIONAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL TEAMS ALMOST A MONTH, THREE, FOUR WEEKS, WHATEVER, WITHOUT PLAYING IN THIS SCENARIO BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT PLAYING IN A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

SO YOU’RE TAKING TWO AND A HALF, IF NOT MORE WEEKS OFF.

SO IF A TEAM HAS A BUY, THEY WON’T BE PLAYING BETWEEN WHAT?

DECEMBER FOURTH ISH AND NEW YEAR’S.

SO WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL IN THE OLD BOWL SYSTEM.

NO.

AND THEN YOU’RE ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO TO EITHER TAKE THOSE THREE, FOUR WEEKS OFF OR TAKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS OFF BEFORE DECEMBER 20TH AND THEN 10 DAYS OFF, 11 DAYS OFF BEFORE THE NEXT ROUND AND THEN ANOTHER NINE DAYS OR SO.

IT’S LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING EXTREMELY A RHYTHMIC ABOUT THIS CALENDAR THAT’S ASKING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DIEHARDS.

PEOPLE WILL FIND, YOU KNOW, YOUR CLEMSON FAN AND CLEMSON’S IN THE PLAYOFF.

YOU’RE GOING TO FIND THEIR GAMES.

YOU’RE GOING TO GO OUT OF YOUR MIND, HOPING CLEMSON BEATS WHOEVER WISCONSIN.

BUT JUST IN TERMS OF HOW THIS OPERATES AND HOW TO MAINTAIN INTEREST WHEN BOWL INTEREST IS SHARPLY DECLINING.

I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE TV RATINGS HAVE INDICATED, BUT I’M JUST TRYING TO FIND THE EXCITEMENT OBVIOUSLY LIES IN GAMES BEING ON CAMPUS MATCHUPS.

WE HAVEN’T SEEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU’RE A BELIEVER THAT, YOU KNOW, A 12 TEAM PLAYOFF IS GREAT FOR FINDING A CHAMPION.

THERE’S A TON OF EXCITEMENT HERE.

BUT THE WAY IT’S CONSTRUCTED IS ASKING A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION’S A LITTLE CLUNKY.

I’LL GIVE YOU THAT.

I’M EXCITED.

I CELEBRATE THIS.

I’VE YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE’VE WE’VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

UNTIL WE’RE BLUE IN THE FACE MANY TIMES OVER.

I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MORE TEAMS NOW THAT ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THIS.

I THINK I THINK IT MAKES FOR A BETTER PRODUCT IN THE OFFSEASON.

BUT I’M ALSO A REALIST.

AND WE’VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME, LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A POINT AT WHICH COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS SOMEWHAT IN CONFLICT WITH THE OTHER THINGS PEOPLE HAVE GOING ON THIS TIME OF YEAR.

AND SO, AGAIN, I’M NOT ROOTING FOR ANY KIND OF INTEREST IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL TO DECLINE.

BUT I’M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE RATINGS SHOW AND HOW IT COMPARES TO WHAT WE’VE SEEN OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO NOW WITH THE 14 PLAYOFF.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE I’M WRONG, MAYBE I’M RIGHT.

WE’LL SEE.

THE WAY THAT THINGS WOULD HAVE WORKED THIS YEAR, OBVIOUSLY, YOUR TOP FOUR WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT BY.

SO MICHIGAN, WASHINGTON, TEXAS AND ALABAMA WOULD HAVE BEEN ON BY.

AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE PLAYED, AS I SAID EARLIER, LIBERTY, THE WINNER OF LIBERTY VERSUS FLORIDA STATE WOULD HAVE PLAYED ALABAMA.

MISSOURI VERSUS OREGON WOULD HAVE PLAYED MICHIGAN.

OLE MISS VERSUS GEORGIA WOULD HAVE PLAYED TEXAS, PENN STATE VERSUS OHIO STATE.

THE WINNER WOULD HAVE PLAYED WASHINGTON.

I THINK IF NOTHING MORE, I MEAN, ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST THIS SYSTEM AS A WHOLE WAS, WELL, IT’S GOING TO BE THE SAME TEAMS.

IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW MANY TEAMS PUT IN IT.

IT’S GOING TO BE THE SAME TEAMS AT THE VERY TOP.

NOW, MAYBE THAT SENTIMENT HAS FADED A BIT WITH THE LIKES OF, YOU KNOW, NICK SABAN WALKING AWAY FROM COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

HE WAS ONE OF THOSE STALWARTS WHO’S KIND OF ALWAYS IN THE HUNT.

I DO THINK IN LOOKING AT THIS, WE ALMOST DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A DIFFERENT SEMIFINAL MATCHUP THAN WHAT WE SAW THIS PAST SEASON.

I DON’T LIKE THERE’S NO WAY THAT MICHIGAN, WASHINGTON, TEXAS AND ALABAMA WOULD HAVE RUN THE TABLE AND MADE IT THROUGH INTO THE SEMIFINAL, GIVEN THAT WASHINGTON PROBABLY PLAYS OHIO STATE, GIVEN THAT TEXAS PROBABLY PLAYS GEORGIA, THAT MICHIGAN PROBABLY PLAYS OREGON.

I JUST DON’T THINK YOU CAN MAKE THAT ARGUMENT LOOKING AT THE WAY THINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN THIS PAST SEASON.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT FIELD.

IT JUST, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT PEAK INTEREST?

I DON’T KNOW.

I ALSO, YOU KNOW, I WONDER, LOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR’S SCHEDULE LIKE, YES, MORE PLAYERS WOULD HAVE PLAYED FOR FLORIDA STATE IN A PLAYOFF GAME THAN FLORIDA STATE NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFF GAME, NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFF LAST YEAR AND TAKING ON GEORGIA AND IT CONFLICTING WITH THE PORTAL WINDOW.

BUT IF YOU’RE A FLORIDA STATE PLAYER, THAT’S POSITIVE.

YOU’RE GOING TO TRANSFER AND THE PORTAL WINDOW AND THE ENROLLMENT WINDOW IS WHAT IT IS.

AND, YOU KNOW, JORDAN TRAVIS IS 100 PERCENT NOT PLAYING IN THIS BOWL GAME.

AND YOU KNOW THAT THIS BOWL GAME IS AGAINST LIBERTY.

ALL DUE RESPECT TO LIBERTY’S SEASON.

BUT IF YOU ARE SOMEBODY WHO CAN POTENTIALLY EARN A BIG NIL PAYDAY BY TRANSFERRING SOMEWHERE BIG, IF YOU’RE A FLORIDA STATE PLAYER, ARE YOU PUTTING YOUR BODY ON THE LINE FOR LIBERTY IN THIS GAME?

RIGHT.

I JUST…

I I’M PRETTY SURE WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A PLAYOFF OPT-OUT.

WE’RE GOING TO WE’RE GOING TO HAVE SOME WEIRD CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE CALENDAR.

AND WE’VE TALKED ABOUT THE CALENDAR BEFORE.

THERE’S NOT REALLY A GOOD WAY FOR COLLEGE FOOTBALL TO HANDLE THIS TRANSFER WINDOW.

IT’S BEEN A BIT OF A DEBACLE AND WE’RE BOTH PRO TRANSFER PORTAL.

BUT THE CALENDAR DOES MAKE FOR MORE MAALIK MURPHY TYPE SITUATIONS WHERE HIS TEAM IS PLAYING IN A PLAYOFF.

AND IF HE WANTS TO TRANSFER BECAUSE HE SEES THE WRITING ON THE WALL, HE KNOWS HE’S NOT GOING TO GET PLAYING TIME IN TEXAS.

IF HE WANTS TO TRANSFER, HE HAS TO DO SO WHILE HIS TEAM IS IN THE PLAYOFF.

I DON’T KNOW IF THERE ARE SOME CONTINGENCIES THAT CAN BE BUILT IN THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.

BUT MAALIK MURPHY HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO ENTER THE PORTAL AND NOT PLAY IN THAT PLAYOFF GAME WHEN TEXAS, YOU KNOW, HAD THEIR MATCHUP EARLIER THIS YEAR.

IT SUCKS.

THAT MAKES IT REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT, PROVIDED THEY CAN’T FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER MEANS TO, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE FOLKS WHO ARE IN THE PLAYOFF.

YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ODD CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND I WONDER FROM AN NIL STANDPOINT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO INCENTIVIZE THESE PLAYERS TO PLAY IN THESE PLAYOFF GAMES?

IT’S A CALENDAR THING FOR MAALIK MURPHY.

I DON’T THINK YOU IF YOU WRITE MAALIK MURPHY A CHECK FOR ONE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS, IS HE PLAYING IN THAT GAME KNOWING HE’S LEAVING FOR PROBABLY NOT?

HE’S LIKE, IT’S A GREAT GESTURE.

IT’S A GREAT MORAL GESTURE.

BUT LIKE, WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY MEAN IF HE’S THINKING MORE LONG TERM THAN JUST TWO WEEKS AWAY?

YEAH, IT MAKES IT IT MAKES IT NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO FIGURE OUT THE CALENDAR.

I THINK WHEN WHEN WHEN COMBINED WITH THIS, YOU’D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME SORT OF ENROLLMENT EXEMPTION, AND THEN YOU’RE JUST GETTING INTO DEALING WITH ADMISSIONS AT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS LIKE I THINK IT CAN BE DONE.

I THINK IT BECOMES TRICKY AND YOU KIND OF HAVE TO LIKE ARGUE FOR WHAT PURPOSE, ESPECIALLY IF IT’S A BACKUP PLAYER.

IT’S NOT EVEN LIKE A STARTER AND QUARTERBACK IS A SPECIAL POSITION.

OBVIOUSLY, IT’S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT ONLY ONE GUY CAN BE ON THE FIELD AT THE AT A TIME.

BUT NO, IT MAKES IT THERE’S GOING TO BE, THOUGH, THAT THAT GAP BETWEEN LIKE DECEMBER 4TH AND DECEMBER 20TH IS GOING TO BE A VERY NEWSY GAP AS IT CONTINUES.

I MEAN, IT’LL CONTINUE TO BE A VERY NEWSY GAP.

AND YEAH, I LOOK AT THIS FIRST ROUND LIKE, HOW COULD WE POSSIBLY KNOW WHO’S BETTER BETWEEN GEORGIA AND OLE MISS?

HOW COULD WE POSSIBLY IS IS GEORGIA STILL THIRTY FIVE POINTS AND OLE MISS?

RIGHT.

I GUESS WE’LL HAVE TO FIND OUT.

AND EVEN LIKE LOOKING AT THE OREGON, WASHINGTON THING, LIKE MAN, OREGON HAD TWO CRACKS AT A PLAYOFF TEAM, LOST THEM BOTH.

LIKE, OK, PENN STATE, OHIO STATE.

HOW COULD WE KNOW WHO’S BETTER THAN PENN STATE BETWEEN PENN STATE AND OHIO STATE?

HOW COULD WE POSSIBLY FIGURE THAT OUT WITHOUT THIS 12 TEAM PLAYOFF?

SO I DON’T KNOW.

MIZZOU, OREGON SEEMS FUN TO ME, THOUGH.

SO LET’S LET’S TALK ABOUT THE NOTRE DAME CIRCUMSTANCE, BECAUSE I SAW THIS MAKING THE ROUNDS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL.

THERE APPEARED TO BE SOME FOLKS WHO RESPONDED INITIALLY.

TO NOTRE DAME’S PLACE IN ALL OF THIS BY SAYING, WOW, THIS IS THIS IS NOT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR NOTRE DAME, THIS IS, QUOTE, BRUTAL.

AND THEN.

AFTER GETTING SOME REPLIES.

IN EFFECT, DEBATING AGAINST THEMSELVES.

YEAH, BECAUSE IT IS NOT BRUTAL, IT IS NOT ANY MORE BRUTAL FOR NOTRE DAME THAN IT IS ANYBODY ELSE.

AND FRANKLY, THE MORE YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE MORE AMAZED YOU SHOULD FEEL THAT EVERYONE ELSE WENT ALONG WITH THIS FOR NOTRE DAME.

YEAH, I THINK IT BENEFITS NOTRE DAME MORE THAN ANY OTHER TEAM.

NOTRE DAME DOES NOT HAVE TO PLAY A GAME.

DURING CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK, BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT IN A CONFERENCE, THEY GET THAT EXTRA WEEK OFF FUNCTIONALLY.

THAT IS THEIR BIWEEK.

THEY DID GET THAT CHANCE, THOUGH, RIGHT?

ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, NOTRE DAME GOT TO PLAY IN A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

I IMAGINE IT WENT WELL.

CONTINUE.

BUT FUNCTIONALLY SPEAKING, HOW DARE YOU?

FUNCTIONALLY SPEAKING, THEIR BIWEEK JUST HAPPENS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

LIKELY FOR NOTRE DAME, IF THEY FINISH IN THE TOP EIGHT, THEY ARE ALSO GOING TO GET A FIRST ROUND PLAYOFF GAME.

IT’S OUTBENT.

YEAH.

AND THEY ALSO GET A DECENT SHOT AT PLAYING WHOEVER THAT GROUP OF FIVE OR NON POWER CONFERENCE TEAM QUALIFIER IS IF THEY FINISH IN THE TOP FIVE AS WELL.

SEE, NOTRE DAME CAN’T FINISH IN THE TOP FOUR BY VIRTUE OF THESE NEW RULES.

THE WAY THAT IT’S SET UP, THE TOP FOUR TEAMS THAT GET AN AUTOMATIC BY OUR CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS, THE TOP FOUR RANKED CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS.

NOTRE DAME WILL NEVER FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.

SO IF NOTRE DAME ENDS UP BEING THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL AT THE END OF, YOU KNOW, CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK, DECEMBER THE FIFTH, WE WAKE UP NOTRE DAME’S THE NUMBER ONE TEAM.

THEY WOULD STILL BE THE NUMBER FIVE SEED.

NOTRE DAME IS ACTUALLY SET UP REALLY, REALLY WELL.

IF THEY HAD A BY THAT OPENING WEEK, THAT’S FIVE FULL WEEKS.

THEY PLAYED THEIR FINAL GAME AGAINST STANFORD THIS YEAR ON NOVEMBER 25TH.

THAT’S RIGHT.

SO YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT 36 OR SO DAYS WITH A PLAYOFF BY.

THAT’S INSANE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO, AGAIN, RESPONDED TO THIS, I THINK, WITHOUT FULLY THINKING IT THROUGH.

YEAH.

DO NOT DUNK ON NOTRE DAME FOR THE WAY THAT THIS THING IS SET UP.

THIS BENEFITS THEM.

OH, IT’S GREAT FOR NOTRE DAME.

HANDSOMELY.

NOW, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GET INTO THE PLAYOFF?

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY PLAY SOME OF THESE TEAMS?

THAT REMAINS, I THINK, THE OPEN QUESTION FOR NOT JUST NOTRE DAME AS A WHOLE, BUT MARCUS FREEMAN AND AND THE WHOLE LOT THERE.

BUT DO NOT SHED A TEAR FOR NOTRE DAME.

THEY MAKE OUT HANDSOMELY WITH THIS ARRANGEMENT.

I’VE SAID FOR A LONG TIME.

THE THING THAT WILL EVENTUALLY FORCE NOTRE DAME INTO A CONFERENCE IS NOT THE PLAYOFF, IT’S MONEY.

IT’S MONEY.

IT’S IF THINGS GO OFF THE RAILS WITH FLORIDA STATE AND THE ACC AND SUDDENLY THE ACC BECOMES INSOLVENT.

IF WE HAVE FURTHER CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT, THEN THEN WE WILL SEE NOTRE DAME BE FORCED TO A DECISION.

BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, THIS SETUP IS PRETTY DAMN BENEFICIAL.

AND I SUPPORT IT.

I WORE MY NOTRE DAME SHIRT HERE.

I’M I’M ALL ABOUT IT.

I JUST CAN’T BELIEVE EVERYBODY ELSE AGREED TO IT.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT REALLY PUTS IT.

SHOULD THEY FINISH IN THE TOP EIGHT?

IT PUTS NOTRE DAME IN A REALLY, REALLY GOOD SPOT.

I’M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF I’M A TOP TEAM, DO I ACTUALLY WANT A BUY?

AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS COUNTERINTUITIVE.

BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME OFF, THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT LIKE IF YOU’RE A COACH TO TAKE BETWEEN LIKE DECEMBER 3RD AND DECEMBER 31ST.

SO THAT’S WHAT FOUR WEEKS OR WEEKS OF HERDING CATS.

RIGHT.

MAKING SURE EVERYBODY SHOWS UP ON TIME AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY PASSES THEIR FINALS, MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY ATTENDS, YOU KNOW, THEIR THEIR WORKOUT STUFF AND FILM SESSIONS.

AND I ON A CERTAIN LEVEL, LIKE I FEEL LIKE YOU’RE JUST GETTING ANTSY.

YOU’RE GETTING SO ANTSY.

AND TO GO FOUR WEEKS WITHOUT PLAYING ON A CERTAIN LEVEL, GUYS ARE GOING TO HEAL UP, RIGHT?

GUYS, GUYS WHO HAVE MISSED A BUNCH OF TIME, YOU KNOW, TORE SOMETHING IN WEEK FOUR, AND THEY’RE NOT SURE IF YOU’RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE.

THERE ARE THREE, FOUR EXTRA WEEKS OF REHAB.

THAT’S A GREAT ADVANTAGE, RIGHT?

IT’S REALLY GOOD FOR DEPTH.

IT’S REALLY GOOD FOR HEALTH.

IT’S REALLY GOOD FOR EVERYTHING EXCEPT PLAYING.

RIGHT.

WELL, YOU WANT TO BE IN A RHYTHM.

YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR SCHEDULE.

THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS ADVANTAGEOUS ABOUT BEING MORE LOCKED IN BECAUSE YOU’VE PLAYED A GAME.

IF YOU ARE A LISTENER OUT THERE, I’D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW.

HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, LET’S TAKE THE CASE OF ALABAMA THIS YEAR.

ALABAMA GOT IN AS A FOUR SEED, RIGHT?

YEP.

WOULD YOU RATHER BE ALABAMA WITH.

CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP IN A BYE WEEK, GET TO PLAY THAT GAME ON A NEUTRAL SITE, OR WOULD YOU RATHER BE FLORIDA STATE?

WOULD YOU RATHER BE FLORIDA STATE, ALSO CONFERENCE CHAMPION, BUT GETS A HOME GAME AGAINST LIBERTY IN ROUND ONE WINNER IN THIS CASE?

AGAIN, IF WE’RE LOOKING AT THIS PAST SEASON AS A AS A GO BY, THE WINNER WOULD MOVE ON TO PLAY ALABAMA.

RIGHT.

BUT WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THAT FIRST ROUND BY OR THAT FIRST ROUND GAME AT HOME AGAINST A TEAM YOU KNOW YOU’RE BETTER THAN?

THE SAME IS TRUE FOR A TEAM LIKE GEORGIA, RIGHT?

HOWEVER, COULD WE KNOW IF GEORGIA IS BETTER THAN OLE MISS?

WELL, WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF THAT EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

RIGHT.

IN A HYPOTHETICAL PLAYOFF GAME, GEORGIA IS HOME AGAINST OLE MISS.

I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANY DOUBT ABOUT IT.

GEORGIA WINS THAT GAME.

WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THAT HOME GAME AGAINST OLE MISS OR WOULD YOU RATHER BE TEXAS AND HAVE THE BYE WEEK AND PLAY THE WINNER OF THAT GEORGIA OLE MISS GAME?

IF I’M ALABAMA OR FLORIDA STATE, I’M DEFINITELY CHOOSING ALABAMA BECAUSE YOU’RE EITHER GETTING A JORDAN TRAVIS LESS FLORIDA STATE TEAM AS YOUR FIRST MATCHUP OR LIBERTY AS YOUR FIRST MATCHUP.

SO YOU TAKE THE BY YOU DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU’RE NICK SABAN AND YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CLOUT TO CONVINCE EVERYBODY THAT IS GOING TO ENTER THE PORTAL TO ENTER IT.

THE I DON’T KNOW THE DAY AFTER LAST YEAR, WHAT DAY DID THE PORTAL WINDOW CLOSE?

IT’S LIKE JANUARY 2ND.

YEAH.

SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

RIGHT.

SO.

YOU GOT TO SORT OF CONVINCE PEOPLE TO STICK AROUND.

AND FOR ANOTHER AN EXTRA WEEK, I DON’T KNOW HOW IT’S GOING TO WORK.

I DON’T KNOW IF THERE’S SOME PLAYERS WHO ARE GOING TO SAY I’M ENTERING THE PORTAL, BUT ALSO PLAYING IN THIS GAME.

YEAH, I’D RATHER BE ALABAMA.

I’D RATHER BE.

IF YOU’RE SAYING IF I’D RATHER BE GEORGIA OR TEXAS OR GEORGIA, OLE MISS OR TEXAS IN THIS SCENARIO, RIGHT?

I THINK I’D RATHER BE GEORGIA.

I THINK YOU LOSE THAT SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

YOU’RE YOU’RE SORT OF CHAMPING AT THE BIT TO GET BACK ON THE FIELDS.

AND PROVE YOURSELF, GET BACK INTO A RHYTHM.

PRESUMABLY, GEORGIA IS GOING TO SIGN THE BEST CLASS IN THE COUNTRY, ONE OF THE BEST THREE CLASSES IN THE COUNTRY.

SO THERE’S GOING TO BE A LOT OF MOMENTUM AROUND THE PROGRAM.

I THINK I’D RATHER BE GEORGIA THERE.

YOU GET THE HOME GAME AND IN PROBABLY NOT BAD WEATHER AGAINST OLE MISS IN ATHENS.

IT’S NOT GOING TO BE GREAT, BUT IT’S NOT GOING TO BE GOING ON THE ROAD TO SOMEWHERE IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST OR THE MIDWEST WHERE IT’S GOING TO BE FREEZING.

AND YOU SORT OF ARE ABLE TO DIAGNOSE THINGS IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN’T NECESSARILY DO IF YOU ARE TEXAS.

SO TO GET A HOME GAME IN AN ADVANTAGEOUS PLACE WHERE AGAINST A TEAM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BEAT UP ON AND THEN GET A NEUTRAL SITE GAME AGAINST, YOU KNOW, I WOULD IMAGINE GEORGIA WOULD BE FAVORED AGAINST TEXAS.

RIGHT.

IF THEY WERE TO PLAY IN.

YEAH.

IN THIS MOMENT, EVEN THOUGH TEXAS IS THE HIGHER RANKED TEAM, IT WOULD BE HARD TO IMAGINE A WORLD IN WHICH GEORGIA IS NOT GIVING FOUR AND A HALF POINTS OR SOMETHING IN THAT GAME.

SO I THINK I’D RATHER BE GEORGIA, NOT JUST BECAUSE I’M BETTER, BUT BECAUSE YOU SORT OF HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHERE YOU ARE AS A PROGRAM IN THAT TIME.

YEAH.

THE PORTAL WILL MAKE THINGS INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU’RE GOING TO NEED DEPTH TO MAKE IT THE FULL FOUR ROUNDS OF THIS THING, RIGHT?

WHETHER YOU GOT EVEN REGARDLESS OF THE PORTAL, YOU’RE GOING TO NEED DEPTH.

YOU’RE GOING TO YOU’RE GOING TO NEED DEPTH REGARDLESS OF THE PORTAL.

BUT I THINK ADDING ALL THESE EXTRA GAMES NOW DEFINITELY MAKES ROSTER DEPTH, ROSTER CONSTRUCTION PARAMOUNT.

RECRUITING YOUR OWN PLAYERS PARAMOUNT.

SHOULD A NON POWER FIVE TEAM GET A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THIS THING?

WE START TO SEE SOME INTERESTING THINGS PLAY OUT, I THINK, WITH RESPECT TO DEPTH CHARTS, TRANSFER PORTALS AND WHATNOT.

EVERY SINGLE G5 PROGRAM IS AT RISK FOR LOSING KEY PLAYERS IN THE PORTAL WINDOW.

AND SO, YES, IT’S GREAT THAT YOU MADE THE PLAYOFF.

YES, IT’S YOU KNOW, YOU WIN YOUR CONFERENCE.

YOU ARE THE LONE REPRESENTATIVE OF G5 FOOTBALL, WHATEVER, IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF.

BUT WHO’S TO SAY YOUR DEPTH IS NOT GOING TO BE SEVERELY THINNED OUT, YOU KNOW, IN THAT WINDOW AS GUYS ARE WEIGHING LIKE, I CAN GO BE THE STARTING RIGHT TACKLE FOR USC.

I CAN GO BE THE STARTING, YOU KNOW, STRONG SAFETY FOR WISCONSIN.

OR DO I WANT TO START IN A PLAYOFF GAME AGAINST GEORGIA?

LIKE.

IT’S THE TIMING OF IT’S GOING TO BE SO ODD, AND IT REALLY PUTS A LOT OF PLAYERS AND EVEN COACHES IN SUPER TOUGH SPOTS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE WILD, MAN.

IT IS GOING TO BE WILD AS FOR HOW IT AFFECTS US.

YEAH.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

I MEAN, YOU TAKE A VACATION IN DECEMBER.

GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT TAKING A VACATION WITH PODCASTING EQUIPMENT.

YEAH.

GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE ALWAYS ASKED US, ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING LIVE SHOWS?

CAN WE DO ANYTHING IN JANUARY GIVEN WHERE THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS HAVE BEEN OVER THE YEARS?

WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO REASSESS THAT AS WELL.

WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BOWL GAMES, I GUESS, THAT WE COULD CONSIDER ATTENDING, CONSIDER DOING EVENTS AROUND THIS COMING SEASON IN 2024, 2025, RIGHT?

ALL LOOKING AT THE LOCATIONS.

SO WE’VE GOT AT&T ARLINGTON NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP IN ATLANTA.

ALL RIGHT.

I CAN SLEEP ON MY COUSIN ZACH’S COUCH.

I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE YOU GOT TO FEND FOR YOURSELF.

YEAH.

WE GOT MIAMI.

WE GOT NEW ORLEANS, GOT ROSE BOWL, JAN ONE.

YEAH.

THEY’RE DECENT LOCATIONS.

I MEAN, THESE THESE ARE ALL FINE LOCATIONS.

OH, ATLANTA IS DOING TWO GAMES.

SO THEY GOT THE PEACH BOWL AND THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR, BUT THEY CAN HANDLE THAT.

THAT’S NO PROBLEM.

YEAH.

YOU GOT ARIZONA, DECEMBER 31ST.

AND THEN WE’VE GOT THE CAMPUS SITES.

AND EVEN MORE NORTHWESTERN AND RYAN FIELD.

SO WHEN NORTHWESTERN IS HOSTING THAT FIRST ROUNDER.

YEAH.

THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO HOST IT AT SEATGEEK STADIUM ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

A LITTLE SOCCER ACTION.

YEAH.

WRIGLEY FIELD, LATE DECEMBER WRIGLEY.

THAT’S WHO’S NOT IN.

I HAVE GOOD PIZZA RECOMMENDATIONS.

YEAH, I SEE TO ME THAT THE CLEAR APPEAL OF THIS SITUATION IS THE CAMPUS STADIUMS, THE CAMPUS.

IT’S GOING TO BE HUGE.

THE WEATHER’S GOING TO BE TERRIBLE.

IT’S NOT IDEAL TO ATTEND SOME OF THESE GAMES FOR WEATHER PERSPECTIVE.

WE’LL SEE, YOU KNOW, TO BE IN COLUMBUS, TO BE IN EUGENE, WHATEVER.

IN LATE DECEMBER, IF THOSE ARE TEAMS THAT END UP THERE.

BUT.

THE ENERGY IN THAT FIRST ROUND, BECAUSE IT’S STILL A LITTLE BIT BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

SO I THINK YOU’RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THOSE STADIUMS TO FILL THEM AND GET A FRENZIED ATMOSPHERE.

A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED, HAPPY TO BE PROVEN WRONG ABOUT THOSE SEMIFINAL MATCHUPS LIKE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEBODY WOULD GO TO THE ROSE BOWL OR THE SUGAR BOWL, LIKE TO SELL ME ON MIAMI OR NEW ORLEANS OR WHATEVER.

THAT COULD BE THE DROP OFF.

RIGHT.

IS THAT THE DROP OFF?

THAT’S WHAT I THAT’S WHY I SAID IT BEFORE, WHERE IT’S LIKE, YEAH, IT’S NO PROBLEM.

I HAVE THIS TIME OFF FROM WORK.

MY KIDS HAVE TIME OFF FROM SCHOOL.

IT’S WINTER BREAK.

LET’S GO TO NEW ORLEANS AND WATCH THE SUGAR BOWL.

LET’S GO, YOU KNOW, LET’S LET’S HAVE A GREAT TIME WATCHING OUR TEAM AND GO TO A GREAT TOWN.

NOT THAT MIAMI IS NOT GREAT OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU’RE LIKE, OK, I’M BACK FROM WINTER BREAK.

MY KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL OR WHATEVER.

I’M JUST GOING TO FLY ON A ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 7TH OR SOMETHING TO GO TO A THURSDAY NIGHT GAME.

NOBODY CONNECTED TO THIS WILL TALK ABOUT THIS SORT OF THING.

RIGHT.

THEY WON’T.

BUT IT’S IT’S VERY REAL.

IT’S VERY REAL.

AND THAT’S NOT ME ROOTING FOR IT AGAIN.

WE CELEBRATE ALL THAT IS THIS WONDERFUL SPORT.

YEAH.

SCAFFOLDING ON TOP OF SCAFFOLDING, WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT THERE WILL BE A MOMENT IN THIS PLAYOFF WHERE.

WHERE WE SEE THAT SORT OF INTEREST WANE, OR WE SEE IT CHANGE.

IT IS TOUGH TO GET TO ALL THESE GAMES.

I MEAN, YOU’RE FRANKLY, IF YOU’RE A FAN OF ANY OF THESE TEAMS IN THE PLAYOFF, UNLESS YOU’RE WILLING TO ROLL OUT, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF CHANGE, YOU’RE NOT GOING TO GO TO ALL THESE GAMES WHEN YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT IT.

RIGHT.

YOU’RE LIKE, I HAVE TO ROLL THE DICE THAT I THINK MY TEAM CAN WIN THIS QUARTERFINAL MATCHUP BECAUSE I’D MUCH RATHER GO TO A SEMI CLOSER TO ME IN TEXAS, CLOSER TO ME IN PASADENA, CLOSER TO ME IN MIAMI, WHATEVER.

AND YOU’RE LIKE, I, I THINK I’M GOING TO HOLD OFF BECAUSE GOING TO THE SEMI SITE IS EASIER.

ACCORDING GOING TO THE QUARTER SITE IS EASIER FOR ME THAN, YOU KNOW, DRIVING SEVEN HOURS OR FLYING THREE HOURS TO GO BACK TO CAMPUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THERE’S GOING TO BE A LOT OF SORT OF TRAVEL CALCULUS INVOLVED WITH FANS.

HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR EVERYBODY.

I WANT NOTHING BUT FULL STADIUMS, LOUD STADIUMS, ENERGETIC STADIUMS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT’S IT’S I THINK IT’S MORE FRAUGHT WITH COMPLICATIONS.

WELL, I’M GLAD THEY FINALLY PULLED IT OFF.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AND I GET THAT THE LOGISTICS OF IT ARE WEIRD AND CLUNKY.

AND CERTAINLY THE CALENDAR IS NOT DOING ANYONE ANY FAVORS.

I’M JUST GLAD THAT WE’VE GOT MORE TEAMS IN THIS THING.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT FOUR WAS STUPID.

SOME SOME HAVE ARGUED THAT SIX WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PERFECT NUMBER, THAT EIGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PERFECT NUMBER, THAT 16 IS THE PERFECT NUMBER.

WE GOT 12.

SO AT THIS POINT, THAT IS ALL WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.

WE ARE WHERE WE’RE AT.

AND THE FACT THAT THEY’VE NOW APPROVED THE FIVE AND SEVEN MODEL, THE FACT NOW THAT WE’VE ACTUALLY GOT STRUCTURE AROUND THIS THING, WE KNOW WHERE AND WHEN GAMES WILL BE PLAYED.

YEAH, TO SOME DEGREE, IT’S STARTING TO FEEL VERY, VERY REAL.

THE TWENTY TWENTY FOUR SEASON IS GOING TO BE BONKERS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST YEAR EVER IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

IT’S NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONFIDENCE REALIGNMENT.

IT’S NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE PLAYOFF REALIGNMENT.

IT IS CERTAINLY BECAUSE OF CONTINUED MOTION ON THE TRANSFER PORTAL SIDE OF THINGS NIL, HOW THAT HAS IMPACTED THE GAME.

THE COLLEGE FREAKING FOOTBALL VIDEO GAME THAT IS COMING OUT AT SOME POINT, HOPEFULLY THIS JULY.

YEAH, THERE’S JUST A LOT THAT HAS BEEN PERCOLATING FOR A WHILE TO MAY TWENTY TWENTY FOUR, ONE OF THE BIGGER SEASONS EVER.

AND YOU MAY NOT LIKE ALL OF THESE CHANGES, FRANKLY, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO US, IT MIGHT BE A BIT TOO MUCH.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE FOLKS ARE COMING FROM.

LISTEN, TY, YOU CANNOT EXPAND A MALL TOO MUCH, RIGHT?

EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT MALLS WILL LAST FOREVER.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE LINES OUTSIDE OF WILSON’S LEATHER.

THAT’S HOW THE WORLD WORKS, THAT PEOPLE KIND OF LIKE MALLS.

SO LET’S BUILD A THOUSAND MALLS EVERY FEW ACRES AND KEEP EVERY EVERYBODY GETS A FOOTLOCKER.

KIDS GET A FOOTLOCKER.

LADIES GET A FOOTLOCKER.

WE GET REGULAR FOOTLOCKER.

YOU GOT YOUR LIKE SPECIAL NIKE AIR JORDAN FOOT LIKE.

RIGHT.

THERE’S NO WAY THIS EXPANSION WILL LEAD TO ANYTHING BUT UNLIMITED PROSPERITY.

TY, YOU KNOW THAT AND I KNOW THAT SOLID VERBAL AT GMAIL DOT COM IS, AS ALWAYS, OUR EMAIL ADDRESS.

RIGHT.

AND LET US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE FIVE PLUS SEVEN MODEL, THE TWELVE TEAM PLAYOFF, WHICH IS SLOWLY BECOMING A REAL THING IN OUR COLLEGE FOOTBALL UNIVERSE.

DID YOU SEE, BY THE WAY, THAT BOTH I THINK REPORTEDLY THE SEC AND THE BIG TEN ARE LIKE, WE WANT MULTIPLE GUARANTEED SPOTS, GUYS, BECAUSE WE HOLD ALL THE CHIPS.

WE HOLD THIS IS A TOPIC FOR A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

THEY WERE PUSHING FOR IT, MAN.

TWO, THREE, FOUR AUTOMATIC BIG TEN SEC SCHOOL WHERE THIS WHERE THIS GOES NEXT.

YEAH.

WHERE THIS GOES NEXT.

AND THIS IS CERTAINLY A TOPIC FOR A DIFFERENT EPISODE.

THE HAVES VERSUS THE HAVE NOTS.

THE SEC, THE BIG TEN HOLD ALL THE CHIPS AND THEY KNOW IT.

YEAH.

THEY KNOW THEY CAN NEGOTIATE FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH.

YEAH.

AND IF YOU PAID ANY ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE REPORTING THAT CAME OUT ON THIS FLORIDA STATE ACC SITUATION TOWARDS THE END OF LAST WEEK, SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING OF AN INDICATION AMONG THESE LEGAL FILINGS THAT THERE COULD BE A NEGOTIATED BUYOUT.

TO GET OUT OF THE ACC GRANT OF RIGHTS DEAL, IF YOU’RE FLORIDA STATE, RIGHT, YOU COULD PAY AN EXORBITANT SUM OF MONEY.

IT’S BEEN ESTIMATED INTO THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUT IT’S POSSIBLE.

PER SOME OF THESE FILINGS THAT THERE COULD BE A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT THAT WOULD GET THEM OUT SOONER.

AND SO IF THAT IS THE CASE, DAN.

YEAH.

AND IF WE ARE STARING DOWN THE BARREL OF WHAT WOULD SEEMINGLY BE ANOTHER ROUND OF PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT, ALL BETS ARE OFF.

ALL BETS ARE OFF WITH THIS PLAYOFF SYSTEM, THE WAY IT’S STRUCTURED NOW THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT FOR THE LAST 40 MINUTES.

ALL BETS ARE OFF WITH CONFERENCE STRUCTURE, THE WAY WE’VE COME TO KNOW THEM NOW OVER THE LAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.

ALL BETS ARE OFF, I THINK, WITH COLLEGE FOOTBALL AS A WHOLE AND HOW IT FITS INTO THE ACADEMIC MODEL, HOW IT FITS INTO THE NCAA.

DOES IT BREAK OFF AND BECOME ITS OWN THING?

I THINK FLORIDA STATE HOLDS THE KEY TO THE NEXT ROUND OF WHATEVER THIS BECOMES.

AND IF, IN FACT, THERE IS ANY KIND OF NEGOTIATION THAT COULD TAKE PLACE AND IF THEY GET PRIVATE FUNDING OR REGULAR FUNDING OR PASS AROUND THE HAT.

SURE.

TO TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER IT’S GOING TO COST TO GET OUT OF THE ACC.

I THINK THAT IS WHEN COLLEGE FOOTBALL GOES NUCLEAR AND THAT IS WHEN THINGS REALLY START TO GO HAYWIRE.

WE ARE NOT THERE YET.

CONVERSATIONS WITH UNEQUAL SHARING OF REVENUE AMONG THE TWO BIGGEST AND MOST MOST PROSPEROUS CONFERENCES, KIND OF THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

FLORIDA STATE MAYBE NEGOTIATING A WAY OUT OF THE GRANT OF RIGHTS, MAYBE THE TIP OF A DIFFERENT ICEBERG.

AT SOME POINT, ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO CONVERGE AND IT’S GOING TO BE PART OF LIKE AN EIGHT HOUR PODCAST SERIES THAT WE HAVE TO DO TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

WE’RE NOT THERE YET, BUT IT’S COMING.

IT’S COMING SOON.

SO THE ONLY EXCEPTION I’LL TAKE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID WHEN YOU SORT OF LED THAT OFF WITH THE BIG TEN AND THE SEC HOLD ALL THE CHIPS.

I DON’T THINK THAT’S TRUE.

I THINK ESPN AND FOX HOLD ALL OF THE CHIPS BY PROXY BY PROXY.

SURE, IT’S THOSE ARE WHO’S THAT’S THOSE ARE THE CHECK WRITERS.

SO WHAT ESPN WANTS, WHAT FOX WANTS WITH ITS CONTROL OF THE BIG TEN PRETTY LOCKED IN, THAT’S GOING TO TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND SO I GUESS IF YOU’RE REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE COLLEGE FOOTBALL GOES IN THE FUTURE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL, PAY ATTENTION TO THE CABLE INDUSTRY.

PAY ATTENTION TO RIGHTS FEES.

PAY ATTENTION TO ESPN POTENTIALLY BREAKING OFF FROM DISNEY.

PAY ATTENTION TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE I MEAN, ESPN OBVIOUSLY KNOWS THAT RIGHTS FEES ARE WHAT WHAT BUTTERS THEIR BREAD.

BUT REALLY, THOSE ARE THOSE TWO ENTITIES ARE WHO CONTROL THIS TURF.

I IMAGINE IT’S GOING TO GET UGLY.

I IMAGINE THERE’S A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES RIGHT NOW THAT WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY MEANINGFUL OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT DECADE.

AND A LOT OF THAT WILL HAVE TO DO WITH TV RATINGS WITH WHAT IF 12 IS EXPLOSIVELY SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE’LL SEE MORE.

IF IT’S NOT, WE’LL SEE CONSOLIDATION TO BE LIKE, WELL, WHY WOULD WE HAVE LIBERTY IN A PLAYOFF?

WHY WOULD WE HAVE THIS SCHOOL THAT’S NOT CONTRIBUTING MUCH IN TERMS OF EYEBALLS INVOLVED IN THIS GOLDEN GOOSE?

SO THAT I THINK ULTIMATELY IS WHAT DECIDES THE FUTURE OF THIS SPORT.

MONEY BECAUSE IT’S A MONEY CONVERSATION.

MONEY.

AND WE TRY NOT TO BE TOO CYNICAL ABOUT IT HERE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE CELEBRATE ALL THAT.

I MEAN, THAT’S LIVING REALITY, THOUGH.

BUT THIS IS YEAH, THIS IS BEING A REALIST AND MONEY IS DRIVING THIS.

IT’S DRIVEN IT FROM THE START.

I AM GLAD THAT WE GOT A 12 TEAM PLAYOFF.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO WRITE IN AND LET US KNOW THEIR THOUGHTS ON NOW THAT WE SEE IT, HOW IT FEELS TO THEM, HOW THEY’LL REACT TO IT.

WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO GO TO ONE OR MORE GAMES?

LIKE JUST LAY IT OUT FOR US WHEREVER YOU CAN POST A COMMENT, BE IT SOCIAL MEDIA, EMAIL, SPOTIFY LETS YOU POST COMMENTS, YOUTUBE.

IF YOU’RE WATCHING OUT THERE, I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE VERBAL HOOD TRULY AND GET YOUR TAKE ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT.

IT IS GOING TO SPAN.

AS WE SAID EARLIER, I SAID 40 DAYS.

IT FELT LIKE 40 DAYS.

IT’S MORE LIKE 30.

IT’S JUST GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE TOWARDS THE END OF THE SEASON.

AND I SUSPECT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OPINIONS OUT THERE FROM OUR LISTENER BASE THAT NEED TO BE HEARD.

SO MAYBE WHAT WE’LL DO, DAN, NEXT WEEK, YEAH, MAYBE WE’LL DO A GIGANTIC TWO PART Q&A.

WE’LL INCORPORATE SOME OF THE COMMENTARY FROM THE VERBALLERHOOD THAT WE GET AS A RESULT OF THIS EPISODE INTO THOSE EPISODES NEXT WEEK.

IN ADDITION TO OTHER VERBALLER QUESTIONS THAT COME IN VIA TRADITIONAL CHANNELS.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?

QUESTIONING YOUR MANLINESS, QUESTIONING STRENGTH, YOUR INNER STRENGTH, WHATEVER, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE IT.

OKAY.

AS IT RELATES TO OUR TOPIC, WOULD PENN STATE HOSTING NOTRE DAME IN THE OPENING ROUND OF THE PLAYOFF?

WOULD THERE BE A TEMPERATURE FOR YOU AS AN EQUALLY OLD AND SOFT MAN AS MYSELF?

WOULD THERE BE A TEMPERATURE CUT OFF WHERE YOU’D BE LIKE, I AM JUST NOT GOING TO MAKE THE DRIVE TO STATE COLLEGE TO WATCH THIS GAME?

LIKE IF WE’RE ISOLATED, RIGHT?

IT’S A FRIDAY NIGHT GAME.

SO WE’RE NOT DOING A SHOW RIGHT AFTER THAT GAME.

YOU CAN DRIVE BACK OR WHATEVER AND WATCH THE REST OF THE GAMES.

DUDE, IT WAS LIKE 60 DEGREES THIS YEAR.

CUT OFF.

IF IT’S GOING TO BE LOW 20S, I’M OUT.

OKAY.

YOU WOULDN’T MAKE THE DRIVE FOR LOW 20S.

I’M OUT.

THERE’S NO REASON NOT TO JUST SIT AT HOME AND WATCH IT ON TV.

BUT THAT WOULD BE EXCITING FOR YOU IF IT WERE LIKE 48 AND CLEAR, YOU’D MAKE THE DRIVE THREE HOURS.

ANY OF THESE STADIUMS ARE GOING TO BE ELECTRIC.

YEAH.

WITH A GAME LIKE THIS ON THE LINE, I’D EVEN BE HESITANT TO GO TO A NOTRE DAME PENN STATE GAME BECAUSE MY ROOTING INTERESTS WOULD BE SO SPLINTERED.

IT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT WATCH FOR ME.

I THINK THE SINGLE BEST OUTCOME CAMPUS WISE, BY THE WAY, IN TERMS OF CAMPUS ADVANTAGE, REALISTIC OUTCOME IS WISCONSIN HOSTING A FIRST ROUND.

OH, YEAH.

BECAUSE THE COMBINATION OF WEATHER AND KNOWN ATMOSPHERE, WEATHER TERM AND LIFE TERM, THAT IT WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE ATMOSPHERE AND IT WILL BE BRUTAL IN MADISON.

I THINK THAT’S YOUR BIGGEST ROUND ONE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE.

LET US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS, VERBALLERHOOD.

WE WANT TO HEAR IT FOR BALLERS.COM AS ALWAYS, WHERE YOU CAN GO TO FURTHER SUPPORT THE PODCAST.

ALSO GET SOME BONUS PERKS LIKE THE AD FREE EPISODES.

YES.

BONUS EPISODES.

I DID THAT VIDEO TALKING THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PODCAST EPISODE FOR OUR PREMIUM VERBALLERS.

PUT THAT OUT ON THE FEED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER ON IN THE WEEK.

I’VE GOT MORE THAT ARE QUEUED UP.

WE’VE GOT SOME BEHIND THE SCENES VIDEO FOOTAGE THAT WE’RE GOING TO.

WE GOT TO LEAK SOME STUFF, THOUGH, TY.

WE GOT TO FIND THE SOLID VERBAL TAPES.

ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT.

I’LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

I DON’T KNOW.

I DON’T KNOW WHAT I’VE GOT IN THE REPOSITORY HERE, BUT IF THERE’S ANYTHING TO LEAK, I WILL.

WE COULD JUST START MAKING STUFF UP.

THAT WORKS, TOO.

THAT’S TRUE.

THAT’D BE GOOD FOR THAT GUY OVER THERE.

MY GOOD FRIEND DAN RUBENSTEIN FOR MYSELF, TY HILL, THE BRAND.

THANKS FOR DOWNLOADING, LISTENING, SUPPORTING.

WE’LL TALK TO YOU ALL SOON.

STAY SOLID.

PEACE.

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