Episode Description

With the college football season officially in the books, it’s time for careful reflection on some of the great misses from 2023. In this college football podcast episode, Ty and Dan join forces with Andy Staples, a board-certified Wrongcologist (and CFB luminary), and take a look back at some of their worst takes from this past season. From giving the USC Trojans defense the benefit of the doubt to writing off Neal Brown at West Virginia and putting too much trust in Drew Allar at Penn State and more, the trio commiserates about its worst calls from the year that was.

WELCOME TO THE SOLID VERBAL.

THE SOLID VERBAL.

COME AFTER ME!

I’M A MAN!

I’M 40!

I’VE HEARD SO MANY PLAYERS SAY, “WELL, I WANT TO BE HAPPY.”

YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY FOR A DAY?

EAT A STEAK.

IT’S THAT WOO WOO!

AND NOW, DAN AND TY.

WELCOME BACK TO THE SOLID VERBAL, BOYS AND GIRLS.

MY NAME IS TY HILDENBRANDT, AS ALWAYS, JOINING ME IN THE HEART OF THE MIDWEST, THE ONE, THE ONLY, ALWAYS THE INCOMPARABLE DAN RUBENSTEIN.

AND SIR, WE ARE, I THINK, SUFFICE TO SAY, EXCITED FOR THIS EPISODE TODAY.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT WE KIND OF CIRCLE ON THE CALENDAR, IS IT NOT?

IT ABSOLUTELY HAS BEEN.

I THINK WE NAMED IT THE LOSSCARS.

THE LOSSCARS, SO LIKE THE OSCARS, BUT WITH THAT BIG OLD L IN FRONT.

I WOULD ALSO, I PITCHED YOU ON HACK-ADEMY AWARDS, BUT YOU KIND OF HAVE TO DO TOO MANY VERBAL GYMNASTICS, TOO MUCH VERBAL GYMNASTICS WITH YOUR MOUTH.

SO I THINK LOSSCARS IS THE MOVE.

IT’S REALLY LIKE A YEAR IN THE MAKING BECAUSE WHAT WE DO ON THIS SHOW, AND ANDY STAPLES IS GOING TO BE HERE FROM ON THREE.

DR.

ANDY STAPLES.

DR.

ANDY STAPLES.

IS IT ANDREW?

IS THAT THE OFFICIAL NAME?

THAT IS MY GOVERNMENT NAME, YES.

NOW, WE’RE CONFERRING, IS THIS AN HONORARY DOCTORATE THAT’S BEING CONFERRED UPON ME?

BECAUSE I LIVE WITH SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN MEDICINE, WHO LAUGHS AT PEOPLE WHO HAVE PHDS, WHO GO BY “DOCTOR” BECAUSE SHE WORKS WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO WENT TO COLLEGE FOR LIKE 94 YEARS BEFORE THEY COULD ACTUALLY MAKE ANY REAL MONEY.

AND THEY GET CALLED DOCTOR.

SO I THINK THIS IS LIKE THE DR.

DUNKENSTEIN KIND OF AWARD OR LIKE DR.

DEMENTO, I THINK WHERE WE…

DR.

DEMENTO.

YES.

GREAT DOCTOR.

LAUNCHED WEIRD AL YANKOVIC.

I MEAN, WHO WOULDN’T LOVE DOCTOR?

BUT YES, THE LOSSCARS IS A GREAT NAME.

THANK YOU.

IT JUST, IT HAS A GREAT RING TO IT.

THE HACK-ADEMY AWARDS IS TRYING A LITTLE TOO HARD, I THINK.

BUT YEAH, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT’S THE TROPHY LOOK LIKE?

BECAUSE ISN’T, ISN’T OSCAR BASICALLY HOLDING A SHOVEL?

YEAH, SORT OF.

YEAH.

THERE IS SOME SORT OF, I DON’T KNOW, IMPLEMENT.

THERE’S SOME SORT OF TOOL THAT THE OSCAR IS HOLDING, RIGHT?

TY, YOU CAN PULL UP THE IMAGE, BUT YEAH, WE’RE CALLING YOU THOUGH, OUR WRONGCOLOGIST.

OKAY.

BOARD CERTIFIED DR.

ANDREW STAPLES, WRONGCOLOGIST.

BOARD CERTIFIED.

AND TO BE CLEAR, TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, WE’RE NOT HONORING THE BIGGEST LOSERS IN THE SPORT THIS YEAR.

WE’RE NOT GOING TO LIKE POINT OUT A TEAM THAT GOT DESTROYED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

WE’RE GOING TO TURN IT ON THE CAMERA, THE MICROPHONE ON OURSELVES AND HONOR THE TAKES, THE GAME PREDICTIONS, THE GAME PICKS, THE SEASON PREDICTIONS, WHATEVER THAT WE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE INCORRECT ABOUT.

AND WHY NOT HAVE ANDY STAPLES, OUR WRONGCOLOGIST.

VERY FAMOUSLY WRONG A LOT OF TIMES THIS PAST SEASON.

LEGENDARILY WRONG.

YOU HAD A MOMENT THIS YEAR THAT MAY WIN THE, MAY WIN THE ULTIMATE LOSSCAR.

YEAH.

OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD OF WRONGNESS.

YEAH.

YES.

WHAT IS THE BEST PICTURE LOSSCAR?

LIKE WHAT ARE WE CALLING THAT?

“CRASH,” I GUESS, RIGHT?

IT’S THE CRASH OF THE SEASON.

WHICH BY THE WAY, DOES NOT HOLD UP.

NOT ESPECIALLY WELL.

NO, NO, NOT AT ALL.

OKAY.

SO THE FORMAT HERE IS I THINK, I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S GOING TO, IT’S NOT A DRAFT, IT’S NOT A BRACKET.

IT’S, IT’S, WE’RE JUST GOING TO, WE’RE GOING TO CREATE AN OPEN, FRIENDLY SPACE TO ADMIT THAT WE WERE WRONG ABOUT A NUMBER OF ITEMS, GAMES, FEELINGS, VIBES, WHATEVER THAT WE HAD GOING BACK TO LAST OFF SEASON.

BECAUSE HERE’S THE CHALLENGE OF DOING WHAT WE DO, BY THE WAY, POOR US, OF COURSE, IS WE SIT, WE LOOK AT TRANSFERS, WE LOOK AT COACH HIRES, WE LOOK AT REALIGNMENT AND WE SAY, THIS IS HOW WE FEEL.

AND YOU GOT TO PLANT A FLAG KIND OF EARLY ON IN THE OFF SEASON.

YOU’RE LIKE, THIS IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WISCONSIN.

THIS IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT FLORIDA STATE.

AND YOU CAN’T REALLY WAVER ON IT UNLESS THERE’S LIKE A VERY CLEAR REASON TO WAVER ON IT.

LIKE YOU GOT TO KIND OF PLANT YOUR FLAG.

AND SO IF YOU’RE RIGHT, YOU CAN SAY, “HEY, I HAD THIS.”

AND IF YOU’RE WRONG, YOU’RE LIKE, “WELL, I FLUBBED THAT.”

AND SO THIS IS REALLY A LONG TIME COMING.

AND I KNOW YOU, ANDY, HAD AT LEAST A WEEK OR MULTIPLE WEEKS WHERE YOU JUST LIKE DID NOT EVALUATE WEEK THREE CORRECTLY.

TY HAD SOME STUFF IN THE OFF SEASON.

I DEFINITELY HAD SOME STUFF IN THE OFF SEASON AND DURING THE SEASON.

SO I DON’T KNOW, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I THINK WE TURN TO ANDY FIRST, TY, WHAT DO YOU THINK WHY DON’T WE START ON A GOOD NOTE, THOUGH?

LET’S START POSITIVE.

BECAUSE WHY?

WHAT POSITIVE CAN THERE BE FROM THIS?

NO, THERE COULD BE A FEW THINGS THAT ARE POSITIVE FROM THIS BECAUSE THEY WEREN’T ALL WRONG.

THEY WEREN’T ALL WRONG.

LIKE FOR ME, FOR EXAMPLE, I’LL CONTINUE PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK, MUCH TO THE CHAGRIN OF MICHIGAN PEOPLE THAT I DID, IN FACT, HAVE MICHIGAN WINNING THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP WHEN I DID THE BIG TEN PREVIEW BACK IN JUNE OR JULY, WHENEVER THE HELL WE DID IT.

BUT HOLD ON.

THERE’S A FULL STORY HERE.

OK, THIS MIGHT BE TY’S ABLE TO PAT HIMSELF ON THE BACK.

BUT THIS ALSO MIGHT BE A NOMINEE, A LOSS, A NOMINEE, BECAUSE TY PICKED AGAINST MICHIGAN IN THE ROSE BOWL.

HE TURNED HIS BACK.

HE SAID PRESEASON.

HE WAS LIKE, MICHIGAN’S MY NATIONAL CHAMPION.

MICHIGAN’S MY NATIONAL CHAMPION THROUGHOUT THE SEASON.

MICHIGAN OVER NEBRASKA, MICHIGAN OVER MINNESOTA.

MICHIGAN’S MY NATIONAL CHAMPION.

MICHIGAN’S MY NATIONAL CHAMPION.

AND THEN THE SIREN SONG OF THE ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE, THE LURLEEN LUMPKIN OF THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL SEASON.

ACTUALLY, THAT KIND OF WORKS WELL, RIGHT?

MARGE KIND OF MAIZE AND BLUE TURNING YOUR BACK ON MARGE SIMPSON.

AND HE FOR THE SOUTHERNER.

YEAH, YEAH, THAT’S TRUE.

AND TY’S GOT LIKE THE SMOKESTACKS THERE IN THE LEHIGH VALLEY, VERY SPRINGFIELD-ESQUE.

AND HE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE WRONG BECAUSE OF HOW RIGHT HE INITIALLY WAS.

I BLINKED.

I BLINKED IN A MOMENT OF WEAKNESS.

SO THIS IS SORT OF BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN FOR ME.

I DID THAT IN THE 2021 SEASON WHEN I PICKED GEORGIA OVER ALABAMA IN THE SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WAS HILARIOUSLY WRONG AND HAD BEEN PICKING GEORGIA ALL SEASON TO WIN THE NATIONAL TITLE.

PICKED ALABAMA TO WIN THE NATIONAL TITLE GAME.

AND OF COURSE, GEORGIA WINS.

YEP.

AND LOOK, IT’S TO BE FAIR TO US, TO THOSE OF US WHO DO THIS JOB, IT’S ARGUABLY NEVER BEEN MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF PLAYER MOVEMENT, COACH MOVEMENT AND THE VARIOUS VARIABLES, WHATEVER THAT ARE NOW COMING WITH THIS SPORT.

AND SO IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU CAN TALK YOURSELF INTO TEAMS MORE EASILY.

BE LIKE, LOOK, THEY ADDED, YOU KNOW, 15 TRANSFERS OR THIS NEW COACH DID THIS AT THIS PLACE.

LIKE WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION.

WE HAVE MORE DATA POINTS THAN EVER BEFORE, BUT IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, PARALYSIS BY OVER ANALYSIS.

AND SO TY TALKED HIMSELF INTO ALABAMA IN RETROSPECT.

TY, DO YOU STAND BY THE PICK?

LISTEN, MAN, A LOT OF MICHIGAN PEOPLE TWEETED ABOUT THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND LIKE THERE’S A NEED TO KIND OF SPIKE THE FOOTBALL AFTER THE WIN.

SURE.

GAME WENT TO OVERTIME.

IT WASN’T LIKE A BAD PICK.

A FEW THINGS GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.

ALABAMA IS PLAYING FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

SO IT WAS THE WRONG PICK AT THE END OF THE DAY.

BUT I DON’T THINK THE LOGIC WAS BAD.

THAT GAME WENT OFF AT MICHIGAN MINUS TWO AND A HALF.

THERE WAS A WORLD WHERE YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALABAMA COULD HAVE COVERED MICHIGAN STILL COULD HAVE WON THE GAME.

AND LOOK, YOU’RE GIVING SABAN A MONTH, RIGHT?

MOST MOST OFTEN WHEN YOU’RE GIVING SABAN A MONTH, YOU’RE GOING TO TAKE NICK SABAN.

THEY WORK THIS TIME.

IT WAS HIS FINAL GAME.

WE KNOW THAT NOW I WAS WRONG ON THAT FRONT, BUT ULTIMATELY RIGHT ON MICHIGAN.

BUT YOU JUST DIDN’T HAVE THE STEELY RESOLVE.

I DIDN’T HAVE THE STEELY RESOLVE.

YEAH.

THE DIAMOND HANDS.

SHUT UP.

LET ME GET THROUGH THE ONES I GOT RIGHT.

I HAVE FOUR MORE.

HOLD ON.

TY WANTS TO KEEP ADDING HIMSELF ON THE BACK.

I WANT TO KEEP ADDING.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO DO IT AS WELL.

OK, FAIR ENOUGH.

SO I HAD MICHIGAN AS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION.

I HAD WASHINGTON WINNING THE PAC-12.

I HAD TEXAS IN THE PLAYOFF.

YEAH.

I SAID THAT COLORADO COULD BE A FEISTY THREE AND NINE.

IN REALITY, THEY WENT FOUR AND EIGHT.

SO OK, I’LL TAKE THAT ONE.

AND I GOT IT RIGHT ON THE SCREWS.

I SAID FLORIDA IS GOING TO FINISH FIVE AND SEVEN, MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULE, BUT CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE.

IF YOU’RE A FLORIDA FAN, ANDY, MAYBE WE CAN TALK A LITTLE ABOUT FLORIDA, FLORIDA GATORS FOOTBALL.

BUT I HAD FIVE AND SEVEN.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I WAS I WAS RIGHT ABOUT.

I WAS RIGHT ABOUT I FEEL MORE THAN I WAS WRONG ABOUT IN LOOKING BACK THROUGH PRESEASON PREDICTIONS.

I ACTUALLY THINK I DID PRETTY WELL.

BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THE MISSES TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE HITS.

LET’S SEE IF I’M LOOKING ACROSS VARIOUS CONFERENCES.

I HAD NEBRASKA’S DEFENSE HAVING THEM SORT OF BECOME INTERESTING.

I GUESS THAT COUNTS.

I HAD MIZZOU’S OFFENSE FINALLY BECOMING INTERESTING AND IT WON’T, YOU KNOW, HAVE MIZZOU FANS TEARING THEIR HAIR OUT OF THEIR BRAINS.

THAT CAME TRUE.

I WAS IN ON KIRBY MORE EARLY, SO THAT I WAS HAPPY WITH THAT ONE.

I WAS I TOOK CLEMSON.

THAT WAS NOT GREAT.

AND YOU SEE, THAT WAS NOT MY FINEST HOUR.

BUT I HAD MICHIGAN, I BELIEVE, WINNING THE BIG TEN.

PEOPLE CAN CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG.

I WAS CLOSE ON A NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT IT WAS NOT A GREAT CORRECT YEAR FOR ME.

NO.

ANDY, WHAT DID YOU HAVE THAT YOU YOU FEEL GOOD THAT YOU GOT CORRECT AND YOU SAW COMING?

NOT A DAMN THING.

NOTHING.

I MEAN, I’M NOT A TERRIBLE YEAR FOR ME.

I’M GOING BACK OVER IT LIKE I HAD PENN STATE DOING THE BIG TEN.

YEAH, AND I RODE THAT OUT UNTIL THE OHIO STATE GAME LIKE, OH, MY GOD, I’M LIKE, I JUST WATCHING THE GAME SITTING.

HOW COULD I BE THIS WRONG?

YEAH, I HAD STAYED.

HOW CAN I FALL FOR THIS?

YEAH, I WAS NOT A BELIEVER IN TEXAS THE WAY THAT I WAS.

NO, THAT WAS VERY LITTLE THAT I FEEL LIKE I DID WELL IN TERMS OF PICKING.

I PICKED OKLAHOMA TO BEAT TEXAS.

I THINK THAT’S PROBABLY ABOUT IT.

WELL, DID I DO IT THAT WAY?

THAT’S THE PROBLEM.

DID I DO IT THAT WEEK?

I CAN’T EVEN REMEMBER.

BUT I PICKED IT MOST OF THE PRESEASON AND GOING INTO THE SEASON.

I THINK I DID PICK OKLAHOMA WITH THAT GAME, BUT IT WAS THAT’S PROBABLY IT.

EVERYTHING ELSE I WAS AWFUL.

I REMEMBER WE WERE SUPER DOWN ON NORTHWESTERN AFTER THE PAT FITZGERALD STUFF RIGHT BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED.

AND THEN AS THE SEASON APPROACHED OR MAYBE A GAME OR TWO INTO THE SEASON, WHEN IT WAS KIND OF CLEAR THAT THE BIG TEN WAS JUST GOING TO BE A MORASS OF BELOW AVERAGE MEDIOCRITY, WHATEVER.

I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT?

WHY CAN’T NORTHWESTERN AT LEAST WIN FOUR OR FIVE?

AND EVEN THEN I UNDERSHOT NORTHWESTERN SEASON.

BUT AT LEAST I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT?

WHY NOT?

MAYBE THERE’S SOMETHING LIKE GALVANIZING ABOUT THE SITUATION THEY WERE PUT IN.

SO I I WAS ON TO SOMETHING, BUT DEFINITELY NOT TO THE DEGREE THAT I THINK I SAID COLORADO WAS GOING TO BE FOUR AND EIGHT OR FIVE AND SEVEN.

YEAH, WHICH IS YOU’LL TAKE THAT.

YEAH, THEY WERE ALSO LIKE 11 SECONDS AWAY FROM BEING TWO AND TEN.

YEAH, BUT LET’S NOT QUIBBLE.

YEAH, LET’S NOT QUIBBLE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, YES.

I THINK THE ONE THAT I WAS MOST WRONG ABOUT WAS NEAL BROWN.

OOH, AT AT WEST VIRGINIA, BECAUSE YOU CAN GO AND YOU CAN PULL QUOTES FROM ME.

I THINK I HAD ABOUT A DOZEN OR SO OF THEM IN THE PRESEASON.

EVEN WHEN WE WERE DOING WEST VIRGINIA FOCUSED EPISODES BACK IN THE SPRING, I WAS ALL IN ON NEAL BROWN AS THE FIRST COACH TO BE FIRED.

AND IN CASE YOU WEREN’T PAYING ATTENTION RIGHT NOW, MY GUYS OVER THERE IN MORGANTOWN, I THINK STILL WASHING THE DUKE’S MAYO OUT OF HIS HAIR, MAYBE WITH THE DAWN LIKE THEY USE FOR THE BABY DUCKS BECAUSE HE CAN’T GET THAT STUFF OUT.

COME ON, NINE WIN SEASON.

TURNAROUND STORIES DON’T GENERALLY HAPPEN IN YEAR FIVE, ANDY.

BUT NEAL BROWN FINISHED WITH NINE WINS.

THEY WON THE DUKE’S MAYO BOWL.

THEY VERY MUCH STEERED INTO WHAT THEIR STRENGTH WAS.

AND I RECALL PRETTY VIVIDLY BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE DID SOME WEST VIRGINIA FOCUSED EPISODES.

SOME OF THE GRIPES OUT THERE ON THE MESSAGE BOARDS ABOUT NEAL BROWN, ABOUT WEST VIRGINIA WAS, MAN, HOW MANY OFF SEASONS DO WE GOT TO GO SAYING WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES?

WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS.

WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT.

LIKE HOW MANY TIMES IN A ROW IS THIS GUY GOING TO DO THIS?

AND THIS ONE WORKED.

THEY STEERED INTO THE RUSHING ATTACK.

THEY STEERED INTO A LOT OF WHAT THEY HAD SUCCESS WITH FROM A PERSONNEL STANDPOINT THE PREVIOUS SEASON.

IT FREAKING WORKED.

NEAL BROWN DID NOT GET FIRED.

NEAL BROWN IS BACK WITH A VENGEANCE.

AND I WAS WRONG.

SO I APOLOGIZE TO NEAL BROWN.

YEAH.

SEE, I DIDN’T SAY THAT NEAL BROWN WAS GOING TO GET FIRED.

WHAT I WANTED WAS NEAL BROWN TO JUST GO OUT IN A BLAZE OF GLORY IF HE WAS GOING TO GO OUT.

I CALLED IT THE YEAR OF YOLO NEAL BROWN.

AND LIKE THAT’S WHAT I SAID.

I TOLD PENN STATE, WORRY BECAUSE YOU’RE DEALING WITH YOLO NEAL BROWN.

AND SURE, SURE ENOUGH, I MEAN, THEY PLAYED HIM TOUGH.

THEY DIDN’T END UP WINNING.

AND I JUST I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH NEIL KIND OF GETTING BACK TO WHO HE WAS AT TROY, WHERE THERE IS NO THIS IS MY OFFENSE.

IT’S I’M GOING TO DO WHAT WORKS.

RIGHT.

I’M GOING TO I’M GOING TO DO WHAT WORKS IN THIS PARTICULAR MATCHUP.

AND IT WAS GREAT.

AND I THOUGHT I TALKED TO HIM QUITE A BIT BEFORE THE SEASON.

THE DEAL IN PHOENIX WHERE THE BIG 12 COACHES MEET AND EVERYTHING.

SO I HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM THERE.

AND I GOT THE SENSE THAT THIS GUY’S LIKE, SCREW IT.

I’M TIRED OF EVERYBODY TELLING ME WHAT’S GOING TO WORK.

I KNOW HOW THIS SHOULD WORK.

AND SO IT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE BECAUSE I DID A THING WITH NEAL BROWN AND TROY IN 2018, WHERE BASICALLY I CALLED THEIR SID DURING SPRING PRACTICE AND I SAID, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BEAT NEBRASKA THIS FALL.

I WOULD LIKE TO EMBED WITH YOU WHEN YOU DO IT.

AND THAT’S MY BEST PREDICTION EVER.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

THERE YOU GO.

AND SO THEY LET ME.

AND SO I GOT TO WATCH HOW HIS PROGRAM WORKED FOR A WEEK.

AND I WAS I CAME AWAY A HUGE BELIEVER IN NEAL BROWN.

SO WATCHING WHAT HAPPENED TO WEST VIRGINIA OVER THE FIRST FOUR YEARS, A LOT OF IT.

I JUST I WAS NOT READY TO PIN TO NEAL BROWN AS A FAILURE OF NEAL BROWN THERE.

THEY HAD SOME SITUATIONS WHERE IT KIND OF COULD HAVE GONE EITHER WAY AND IT DIDN’T QUITE BREAK THAT THE RIGHT WAY FOR THEM.

HE BRINGS IN GRAHAM HARRELL TRYING TO SAY, “OK, I’M GOING TO BE MORE OF A CEO.”

HE CALLED THE PLAYS, FIGURED OUT WHAT WORKED.

AND BY THE WAY, WHEREAS THEY GOT PILLAGED IN THE PORTAL THE LAST FEW YEARS, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY KEPT WHAT THEY NEEDED TO KEEP.

SO JACK FRAZIER’S GONE BEST CENTER IN AMERICA, BUT HE WAS GOING TO THE NFL ANYWAY.

SO I’M I’M I’M VERY IMPRESSED.

AND I’M ACTUALLY PRETTY HIGH ON WEST VIRGINIA GOING INTO THIS SEASON TO GET TO HIM.

WHITE, ONE OF THE MORE PROMISING YOUNG RUNNING BACKS IN THE SPORT, COUPLED WITH C.J.

DONALDSON.

YEAH, THEY WERE PILLAGED.

AND TO BE FAIR TO WEST VIRGINIA, WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A TEAM WHO LOOKED CRAZY STRONG THIS YEAR THAT EMPHATICALLY PROVED EVERYBODY WRONG.

BUT THEY WERE ONE OF THOSE TEAMS THAT WE LIKE TO SAY DRAFTED BEHIND THE OPPORTUNITY TRUCK.

AND WHEN THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE BIG 12 LOOKED AS DISAPPOINTING AS IT LOOKED THIS YEAR, CINCINNATI BAYLOR INJURED QUARTERBACKS, TCU LIKE TEXAS TECH, RIGHT, THAT THEY WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO TAKE ADVANTAGE, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY A SKILL AND GOOD FOR WEST VIRGINIA FOR GETTING TO A BOWL, FOR GETTING MAYO ON THEIR HAIR.

ABSOLUTE WIN OF A SEASON.

CAN’T GET THAT STUFF OUT, MAN.

YOU CAN’T GET THAT STUFF OUT.

THAT JUST CLINGS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, COULDN’T BE MORE DISGUSTING TO OUR WRONGCOLOGIST, ANDY STAPLES, THAT WE’RE BRINGING MAYONNAISE ON HAIR INTO THE DISCUSSION.

WELL, I’D RATHER BE IN MY HAIR THAN IN MY MOUTH.

THAT’S OK.

OH, LET’S LET’S USE THAT AS OUR SEGUE TO DAN RUBENSTEIN.

OK.

WHAT DO YOU GOT FOR US, DAN?

I WAS FIRST OF ALL, IN THE WAY THAT ANDY TALKED ABOUT PICKING AGAINST GEORGIA TWICE, I HAD OREGON BEATING WASHINGTON IN SEATTLE.

OH, MAN, I PREDICTED OREGON BEFORE THE SEASON.

I SAID, OREGON’S GOING TO LOSE IN SEATTLE, BUT WIN IN VEGAS, OREGON LOSING IN SEATTLE DRAMATICALLY.

SO AND THEN OREGON IS LIKE A NINE AND A HALF POINT FAVORITE PICKING OREGON IN THE PAC-12 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, THE FINAL PAC-12 GAME EVER, AT LEAST FOR NOW, AND HAVING WASHINGTON ONCE AGAIN ALMOST BLOW A LEAD.

BUT OREGON LOSE CLOSE ONCE AGAIN.

SO I DOUBLED UP.

YOU DOUBLED UP AND TO MUCH OF THE DELIGHT, MUCH TO THE CHAGRIN OF MY BRAIN AND OREGON FRIENDS OF MINE, BUT MUCH THE LIGHT OF WASHINGTON FRIENDS, THE HUSKIES TOOK IT TWICE.

SO A DOUBLE MINT GUM FOR ME.

CAN I CAN I DO A RICOCHET SHOT HERE ON GEOFF SCHWARTZ, WHO PROVIDED US WITH GREAT VIDEO CONTENT OUT AT VERBALLERS.COM THE WHOLE YEAR THROUGH?

THIS IS ONLY HALF OF THE STORY, ANDY.

THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS OUR LIKE INTERNAL SLACK CHAT BETWEEN DAN AND I IN THE BUILD UP TO THE SECOND OREGON GAME WHERE HE IS SHARING WITH ME THE TEXTS THAT HE GETS FROM JEFF AT LIKE 6 A.M. BECAUSE GEOFF IS ALL IN ON OREGON FOOTBALL.

OF COURSE.

YEAH.

AND OF COURSE, TALKING THROUGH MICHAEL PENIX AND TALKING THROUGH HOW IN THE WHEN WHEN THERE’S PRESSURE IN HIS FACE, HE’S A DIFFERENT QUARTERBACK.

AND GUYS, OREGON IS JUST BETTER.

THEY’RE JUST BETTER IN THIS SPOT.

THEY’RE GOING TO I WOULD TAKE OREGON AGAIN TODAY.

TODAY, I SO I FLIPPED ON THAT ONE BECAUSE I HAD PICKED OREGON ALL SEASON.

I THOUGHT OREGON’S OREGON’S JUST BETTER.

AND THEY’LL SHOW IT BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, SHOULD HAVE KICKED THE FIELD GOAL AT THE END OF THE FIRST HALF.

BUT OTHERWISE IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST CHANCE THAT THEY DIDN’T GET EITHER OF THE OTHER TWO FOURTH DOWN CONVERSIONS.

AS THAT LINE KEPT GOING UP IN OREGON’S FAVOR.

I WAS LIKE, NO, THIS IS SOMETHING’S WRONG HERE.

SOMETHING’S OFF BECAUSE WASHINGTON KEEPS WINNING THESE GAMES.

RIGHT.

AND IT’S NOT AN ACCIDENT.

AND SO AS THE LINE KEPT GOING UP, I WAS LIKE, OK, FORGET IT.

I PICKED OREGON.

I’M NOT PICKING AGAINST WASHINGTON HERE.

YEAH.

I WAS LIKE, YOU’RE GOING TO GIVE ME ALMOST 10 POINTS.

I’M TAKING HUSKIES.

YEAH.

SO ANDY’S OUR WRONGCOLOGIST AND KALEN DEBOER IS OUR WINTERNIST, RIGHT?

YEAH.

WINTERNIST.

THAT’S THE BEST I CAN DO ON SHORT NOTICE.

I APOLOGIZE.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, DAN.

I DON’T BLAME YOU, THOUGH.

I DON’T BLAME YOU.

THAT WAS TOUGH.

AND OREGON BEAT UP CORNERS AND YOU CAN MAKE EXCUSES.

I CAN MAKE EXCUSES.

WASHINGTON WAS BETTER PREPARED TO WIN THOSE GAMES.

WELL, GEOFF IS VERY PERSUASIVE.

HE IS FOR THOSE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT TALKED OFFLINE WITH GEOFF SCHWARTZ.

ONE HE’S WAS A VERY GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYER, UNDERSTANDS THE GAME REALLY WELL, PLAYED IN THE PROS FOR A LONG TIME.

LIKE SO YOU’RE GOING TO RESPECT HIS OPINION NO MATTER WHAT.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WITH JEFF, THOUGH, THAT HE IS AN UNABASHED OREGON HOMER.

HE IS NOT LOOKING AT THIS SUBJECTIVELY.

AND THAT’S WHY HE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE WASH THERE.

NO, IT’S LIKE, LOOK AT ME.

DO I LOOK LIKE I PLAYED ON THE OFFENSIVE LINE?

NO, OF COURSE I’M GOING TO LISTEN TO GEOFF SCHWARTZ WHEN HE HAS WHEN HE HAS FEEDBACK FOR DAN ON WHAT HE’S SEEING ON TAPE.

SO IT DIDN’T WORK.

WHATEVER.

WE ALL HAVE THESE.

ANDY, YOUR TURN.

THIS IS THIS IS A GREAT ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I SIT DOWN THE VISUAL AIDS HERE BECAUSE THE FIRST THE FIRST SCREENSHOT I SENT TO DAN WAS A TEXT OF THE PICS THAT I HAD MADE ON MY SHOW.

SO ON THE SHOW, WE MAKE.

KIND OF ANYWHERE BETWEEN 10 AND 15 PICKS, WHETHER THEY’RE POINT SPREAD PICKS, WHETHER THEY’RE TOTAL PICKS.

AND THIS WAS WEEK THREE.

AND SO WE HAD MADE 12 PICKS.

AND SO JACK TERRY, WHO RUNS OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, TEXT ME THE 12 PICKS I MADE.

AND HE SAYS, I’M MAKING A GRAPHIC FOR TWITTER AND INSTAGRAM, BUT I NEED TO NARROW THIS LIST DOWN TO EIGHT.

WHICH FOUR DO YOU FEEL THE WORST ABOUT?

AND I WRITE BACK, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEM ALL.

JUST PULL THE FOUR LEAST IMPORTANT ONES.

AND THEN HE GOES, DO YOU CALL THIS ANYTHING LIKE ANDY’S LOCKS OR SOMETHING?

AND SO THEY END UP CALLING IT ANDY’S LOCKS.

AND THEY PUT OUT A GRAPHIC WITH EIGHT SELECTIONS.

SO I WILL READ TO YOU THE EIGHT SELECTIONS THAT WERE ON THIS GRAPHIC.

MIND YOU, THIS IS WEEK THREE.

THESE ARE MY PICKS.

MISSISSIPPI STATE PLUS NINE AND A HALF AGAINST LSU.

TENNESSEE MINUS SIX AND A HALF AT FLORIDA.

COLORADO MINUS 22 AND A HALF AGAINST COLORADO STATE.

KANSAS STATE MINUS FOUR AND A HALF AT MISSOURI.

OH NO, IT’S WORSE.

MICHIGAN STATE PLUS 16 AND A HALF AGAINST WASHINGTON.

GEORGIA MINUS 27 AND A HALF AGAINST SOUTH CAROLINA.

WE’RE NOT DONE YET.

ALABAMA MINUS 31 AND A HALF AT USF.

OH MAN.

OH MAN, YOU JINXED THEM.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

ONE MORE.

WESTERN MICHIGAN AT IOWA UNDER 42 AND A HALF.

SO THAT’S, THE LAST ONE IS THE KEY.

ONE OF THE TWO WEEKS OF THE YEAR WHERE THE IOWA TOTAL WENT OVER.

I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN IT WOULDN’T BE MY WEEK.

SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU DON’T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN WEEK THREE, THAT IS AN 0-8 WEEK RIGHT THERE.

THAT IS O FOR THAT ENTIRE GRAPHIC.

MISSISSIPPI STATE WAS DOWN NINE AND A HALF TO LSU WITHIN ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

MALIK NABERS HAD LIKE 300 RECEIVING YARDS IN THE FIRST HALF.

FLORIDA HAD BEATEN TENNESSEE BY THE END OF THE SECOND QUARTER.

LIKE THAT GAME WAS NOT CLOSE AFTER THE SECOND QUARTER.

COLORADO STATE-COLORADO, BY THE WAY, WE ALL STAYED UP TILL TWO IN THE MORNING EASTERN TIME.

REMEMBER?

YEAH.

BECAUSE THAT GAME WENT OVERTIME.

RAMS JUST RUNNING CROSSER AFTER CROSSER AFTER CROSSER.

YEAH.

K-STATE, MISSOURI.

I KNEW I HAD LOST EVEN WHEN ELI DRINKWITZ THOUGHT HE HAD LOST BECAUSE THEY WEREN’T COVERING FOUR AND A HALF.

BUT I ASSUMED HARRISON MEVIS WAS GOING TO MISS FROM 61.

NO, HE MADE IT.

KEEP GOING.

SO I WAS HOPING FOR A DEAD CAT BOUNCE FOR MICHIGAN STATE AGAINST WASHINGTON BECAUSE THAT’S WHEN MEL TUCKER HAD JUST BEEN FIRED.

YOU KNOW, HARLON BARNETT GETS THE INTERIM JOB.

LIKE, HARLON BARNETT’S GOING TO GIVE A GIVE HIM HELL HARRY SPEECH.

THEY’RE COMING OUT AND THEY’RE GOING TO GIVE WASHINGTON, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT DESTROYED IN THAT GAME.

GEORGIA, SOUTH CAROLINA.

WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT GEORGIA THAT WAY.

THAT WAS THE WEEK WHERE THEY HAD THE CAMERAS IN THE LOCKER ROOM AT HALFTIME.

CARSON BECK’S LIKE WINKING AT THE CAMERA BECAUSE THEY’RE DOWN.

I THINK THEY WERE DOWN 14 THREE AT HALFTIME.

THEY WERE NOT COVERING A FOUR TOUCHDOWN SPREAD.

AND THEN THAT WAS THE WEEK THAT NICK SABAN AND TOMMY REES DECIDED, OH, YOU THINK WE CAN’T DO BETTER THAN JALEN MILROE?

WELL, WE’LL SHOW YOU.

WE CERTAINLY CAN’T.

WE’RE GOING TO TURN THIS GAME OVER TO TYLER BUCHNER AND TY SIMPSON, AND YOU’LL SEE WHY WE HAVE TO START JALEN MILROE.

IT WAS WHAT HAPPENED WAS WEEK THREE WAS THE CROSSHAIRS OF LIKE A NARRATIVE WEEK.

LIKE, YES, WHEN ALL OF THE NARRATIVES WERE BORN AND YES, YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT ALL OF THEM.

LIKE YOU WERE AT AGAIN, WE USE THE TERM GUMPY AND IT’S NO PUN WITH THE ALABAMA THING.

BUT LIKE YOU WERE AT THE SCENE FOR ALL OF THESE MAJOR NARRATIVES.

YES, BUT YOU COULDN’T GET IN.

RIGHT.

I WAS AT THE INTERSECTION OF THEM.

RIGHT.

THE LIGHT WENT HAYWIRE AND I GOT RUN OVER IS WHAT HAPPENED.

LIKE GEORGIA’S DEFENSE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE MORTAL AGAINST THE RUN.

IOWA’S JUST A DISASTER ON OFFENSE.

WHAT ELSE?

THE HARRISON MEVIS HAS AN ABSOLUTE BOOT IN MIZZOU IS ONE OF THE FEEL GOOD STORIES OF THE SEASON.

YOU ARE THERE.

YOU ARE AT ALL THE SHOW.

YOU ARE SHOWING PEOPLE PICTURES OF YOU AT WOODSTOCK.

BY THE WAY, BY THE WAY, MIZZOU, KANSAS STATE, WHEN BRADY COOK WAS INTRODUCED AS A STARTING QUARTERBACK, THE HOME CROWD BOOTED HIM.

YEAH, YEAH.

THEY WAS NOT THE FEEL GOOD STORY AT THAT POINT.

IT BECAME AN F AND LET ME POINT OUT, AS I AS I MENTIONED, THERE WERE THE 12 PICKS IN THE SHOW.

FOUR PICKS WERE REMOVED FROM THIS.

SO HERE ARE THE FOUR PICKS THAT WERE REMOVED.

PENN STATE MINUS FOURTEEN AND A HALF AGAINST ILLINOIS.

WEST VIRGINIA MINUS ONE AND A HALF AGAINST PITTSBURGH.

WISCONSIN MINUS NINETEEN AND A HALF AGAINST GEORGIA SOUTHERN.

NORTH CAROLINA MINUS FOUR AND A HALF AGAINST MINNESOTA.

IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHAT HAPPENED THAT WEEK?

WHAT WAS MY RECORD ON THOSE FOUR PICKS?

FOR NOW.

THAT’S HOW IT WORKS.

ANDY, WE DID A SEGMENT ON THIS SHOW CALLED TY VERSUS THE WORLD WHERE I WOULD GIVE OUT MY LIKE WE WOULD GIVE LOCKS OUT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF OUR OUR NORMAL PREVIEW EPISODE, BUT I WOULD GIVE OUT MY OFFICIAL PICKS, THE ONES THAT I FELT BEST ABOUT AT THE END OF ALL OF OUR PREVIEW EPISODES.

AND IT WAS A ROUGH GO FOR ME IN THE EARLY PART.

NOW, WHAT THE THE GRAPHIC YOU’RE REFERRING TO IS VERY EARLY ON IN THE SEASON.

BUT AT THAT POINT, I HAD ALREADY TAKEN ON SOME SERIOUS WATER.

AND I REMEMBER SAYING TO DAN, WELL, AT LEAST ANDY GOT THEM ALL WRONG.

IT MADE ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT MYSELF.

IT DIDN’T GET MUCH BETTER UNTIL MUCH LATER IN THE SEASON FOR ME ON THAT SEGMENT.

BUT I KIND OF HELD UP THAT GRAPHIC THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.

I DIDN’T PRINT IT UP AND PUT IT ON THE WALL HERE IN THE STUDIO, BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT IT FREQUENTLY WORSE.

I THOUGHT ABOUT IT FREQUENTLY TAPS IT LIKE THE NOTRE DAME PLAY LIKE A CHAMPION TODAY.

WALKING IN.

HERE’S THE THING ABOUT THAT.

SO IF JACK HAD CHOSEN DIFFERENTLY, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A FOREIGN FOR GRAPHIC AS OPPOSED TO AN 0-8, WHICH IS TOTALLY RESPECTABLE.

RIGHT.

BUT I ARGUE THAT 0-8 WORKS BETTER BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE’D DONE THE GRAPHIC.

WE DIDN’T DO IT THE FIRST TWO WEEKS. 0-8 SET AN EXPECTATION, SETS THE TONE.

AND IT’S LIKE EVERYONE AFTER THAT WAS, OH, THIS IS THE MORON WHO WENT 0-8 ENGAGEMENT BABY GOT MORE TRACTION.

IT’S ENGAGEMENT.

A MILLION PEOPLE SAW THAT GRAPHIC!

ALL ABOUT ENGAGEMENT THESE DAYS.

ALL RIGHT.

CHANGE NEXT YEAR’S GRAPHIC TO “STAY AWAY STAPLES.”

AND THAT’S HOW YOU’RE GOOD.

THEN YOU’RE GOOD TO GO.

RIGHT.

YOU LEAN IN, YOU COMMIT TO THE BIT.

AND 0-8 IS WAY MORE INTERESTING THAN FOREIGN FOR ABSOLUTELY WAY MORE INTERESTING.

BY THE WAY, ON THAT NOTE, TY, IF I CAN JUST USE IT AS A SEGUE, I THINK WE BOTH AGREED WHEN WE DID OUR ACC PREVIEW JUST BECAUSE HE MENTIONED PITT, WEST VIRGINIA, OR LIKE, HEY, ZERO CHANCE.

PITT LOSES FIVE GAMES OR MORE.

THEY ALWAYS FIGURE IT OUT.

QUOTE, QUOTE, THERE AREN’T FIVE LOSSES ON THE SCHEDULE.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT?

I WAS RIGHT.

THERE WERE NINE.

YEAH.

IF YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU DIDN’T PLAY HIGH LEVEL FOOTBALL AND IF YOU AND I DON’T INTEND THIS TO COME ACROSS AS MEAN, BUT THIS IS JUST SCIENCE HERE.

IF YOU EVER WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT WOULD FEEL LIKE TO WAKE UP AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU’RE PLAYING QUARTERBACK FOR PITT, WATCH THE WEST VIRGINIA GAME.

THERE WERE MOMENTS WHERE WE WERE ALL PHIL JURKOVEC.

YEAH, WE WERE ALL.

I WAS FREAKING OUT THE THE PITT STORY.

LIKE I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT THE ACC STUFF THAT I THAT I PUT OUT THERE AND THE OPTIMISM WAS THE SCHEDULE BECAUSE AT THE START OF THE YEAR, IT DIDN’T LOOK LIKE IT WAS GOING TO BE TOO DIFFICULT.

THE OPTIMISM WAS, HEY, PAT NARDUZZI LOST A LOT ALONG THE LINE, BUT HE FIGURES IT OUT.

RIGHT.

THAT’S JUST WHAT HE WHAT HE DOES.

PART OF THE OPTIMISM WAS PHIL JURKOVEC, WHO THEY WENT BASICALLY WENT OLD YELLER ON PHIL JURKOVEC BY LIKE WEEK SIX.

YEAH.

AND IT JUST KIND OF ALL BOTTOMED OUT AND THEY WENT THREE AND NINE.

AND SO PITT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT I HAD HIGHLIGHTED ACTUALLY THAT I WAS GOING TO DO NEXT.

IT’S A PERFECT SEGUE.

I’M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

MM HMM.

IT’S WHAT DO YOU HAVE NEXT, TY?

OUTSIDE OF THAT.

OKAY, SO I WON’T PLAY THE DRUM ROLL AGAIN.

I HAD PITT.

I DID WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE MYSTERIOUS, QUOTE UNQUOTE, RADIO GUYS IN UTAH THAT MOST OF TWITTER WROTE TO US ABOUT WHEN WE SAID WE’RE NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT CAM RISING.

WE WEREN’T SO WRONG ABOUT THAT ONE, DAN.

WE JUST.

OH, I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE.

YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO HIS KNEE.

WHY ARE WE JUST PENCILING HIM IN IN LATE AUGUST?

WE JUST KIND OF LIKE WENT WITH IT.

BUT WE WERE WE WERE SKEPTICAL.

WHAT VERSION OF CAM RISING?

CAN I GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT, TOO?

SURE.

I HAD A STORY WRITTEN ABOUT UTAH POTENTIALLY GOING AND GETTING A QUARTERBACK WHO’D BEEN OUT FOR A YEAR.

AND WAS PRESUMED RETIRED.

IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.

BUT THEY DID MAKE INQUIRIES.

THEY KICKED TIRES.

SO I KNEW THE CAM RISING INJURY WAS HAD TO BE FAR WORSE THAN WHICH IS WHY I PICKED FLORIDA.

SINCE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT BEING WRONG.

YEAH.

WHY I PICKED FLORIDA TO BEAT UTAH IN THE SEASON OPENER.

YEP.

TURNS OUT YOU DON’T NEED CAM RISING TO BEAT FLORIDA.

I JUST REMEMBER WHEN WE DID OUR PAC-12 PREVIEW AND WE WE WERE SKEPTICAL ABOUT WHAT VERSION OF CAM RISING WE WERE GOING TO GET BECAUSE OF THE INJURY.

AND LIKE THESE THINGS TAKE TIME.

IT’S NOT.

YEAH.

SCIENCE HAS ADVANCED A LONG WAY, BUT YOU STILL CAN’T REGROW AN ACL OVERNIGHT.

YEAH.

WE DIDN’T WE DIDN’T THINK IT WOULD BE STUDENT ASSISTANT CAM RISING.

THAT’S RIGHT.

WE HAD WE HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF UTAH PEOPLE LIKE, LISTEN, THE RADIO GUYS IN UTAH ARE SAYING HE’S GOING TO BE READY.

SO JUST LIKE BE ON ON ALERT.

WELL, RIGHT.

WE’RE ON ALERT FOR TWENTY TWENTY FOUR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT ONE DIDN’T PAN OUT FOR THOSE GUYS.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT DIDN’T PAN OUT FOR CAM RISING EITHER.

LET ME CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED PENN STATE, ANDY, BECAUSE I’M A PENN STATER.

DREW ALLAR.

OH, YEAH.

DREW, I WAS PREACHING AT THE DREW ALLAR ALTAR SINCE THE MOMENT HE SIGNED THE DOTTED LINE ON THE LETTER OF INTENT.

IN FAIRNESS TO INTERCEPTIONS.

THROUGH THE REGULAR SEASON.

YEAH, HE WAS NOT A LIABILITY.

HE WAS NOT A DISASTER.

HE JUST.

HE WAS KIND OF NOT GOOD.

SO KIND OF NOT TRANSCENDENT.

RIGHT.

WE EXPECTED IT WAS LIKE IT’S INTERESTING BECAUSE LIKE SEEING GAMES IN PERSON SOMETIMES CLARIFIES THINGS FOR YOU.

AND IT’S HARD TO EXPLAIN.

BUT WATCHING DREW ALLAR ON TV, IT’S LIKE, OK, I’M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHY IT’S NOT CONNECTING HERE BECAUSE I GO TO THE IOWA GAME POURING DOWN RAIN.

HE’S MAKING NFL THROWS INTO TIGHT WINDOWS.

YOU’RE LIKE, OK, THIS GUY’S GOING TO BE THIS GUY’S GOING TO BE AWESOME.

RIGHT.

AND I WENT TO THE MICHIGAN GAME IN PERSON AND I WENT TO THE MICHIGAN STATE GAME IN PERSON.

TWO VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES FOR PENN STATE AND THE MICHIGAN GAME.

YOU CAN SEE MUCH MORE WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE FIELD AND IT’S NOT JUST WHAT YOU’RE SEEING ON TV.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE HE KIND OF CLUTCHES FOR JUST THAT EXTRA HALF SECOND IN A LOT OF SITUATIONS WHERE HE’S A LITTLE.

AND THIS IS PROBABLY WHY HE DIDN’T THROW MANY INTERCEPTIONS.

BECAUSE HE’S VERY TURNOVER REVERSE.

BUT WHERE AGAINST THE OHIO STATES AND THE MICHIGANS, YOU’VE GOT TO LET THAT RIP SOMETIMES.

AND THEN AGAINST MICHIGAN STATE, WHEN THE RECEIVERS ARE SO GALACTICALLY OPEN.

YEAH.

THAT IT DOESN’T MATTER.

I MEAN, HE’S JUST HE’S LIKE A JUGS MACHINE AT THAT POINT.

YEAH, IT’S IT’S SUCH AN INTERESTING, LIKE, I DON’T KNOW, MENTAL EXERCISE WITH THIS GUY BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE TALENT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT HE’S GOT HE CAN THROW THE BALL OUT OF THE STADIUM.

BUT ALSO THERE ARE THESE MOMENTS WHERE HE JUST DOESN’T LET IT RIP.

HE DOESN’T STEP INTO THROWS.

IT WAS A LOT OF UNDERNEATH STUFF.

PART OF IT WAS NOT HAVING RECEIVERS, BUT PART OF IT WAS ALSO NOT SEEING RECEIVERS WHEN THEY WERE OPEN.

MY SENSE IS THERE WAS SOME WEIRD TENSION THERE WITH MIKE YURCICH AS WELL, BUT THERE WERE ACCURACY ISSUES.

IT JUST YOU DIDN’T COME AWAY A WHOLE LOT AFTER WATCHING DREW ALLAR AND WITH THIS FEELING OF, WOW, HE WAS AWESOME.

AND SO IT JUST FELT LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL THAT WE DIDN’T SEE THAT I EXPECTED, THAT I PREDICTED, THAT I WAS WRONG ABOUT THAT.

I HOPE I SEE IN 2024 WITH A NEW OFFENSIVE SYSTEM.

BUT WE’LL DEFINITELY PUMP THE BRAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE DO OUR PREVIEWS THIS TIME.

I’M STILL PROBABLY GOING TO BE ALL IN ON THEM BECAUSE ANDY KOTELNICKI, THEIR NEW OC WHO CAME FROM KANSAS, IS LIKE THE MOST FUN MAD SCIENTIST OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR EVER.

LIKE GO WATCH GO WATCH ALL THE STUFF HE DREW UP FOR THE JALON DANIELS AND JASON BEAN IN AT THE SAME TIME.

PLACE.

YEP.

YEAH.

I DON’T.

DOES PENN STATE HAVE RECEIVERS?

THAT’S THE ONLY THING TO ME RIGHT NOW.

JULIAN FLEMING HAS A HELL OF A CAR COMMERCIAL.

YEAH, HE DOES HAVE A CAR COMMERCIAL.

EVERYBODY LIKES JULIAN FLEMING.

I DON’T KNOW IF OHIO STATE FANS WERE FOREVER FANS OF HIS HANDS, BUT TALENT’S OBVIOUS.

I HAVE.

OK, SO THIS WAS ON OUR IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON OUR HOT TAKES EPISODE.

SO MY NOT THIS IS IT’S NOT A FULL LIKE GENUINE.

I’VE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS, BUT IT WAS A TAKE I CAME UP WITH THAT USC’S DEFENSE WOULDN’T BE GOOD, WOULDN’T BE GREAT, WOULDN’T BE THE COMEBACK STORY OF THE SEASON, BUT THAT THEY’D BE FINE.

THAT ADDING BEAR ALEXANDER AND ANTHONY LUCAS SHORES UP A DEFENSIVE LINE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO COVER FIRST OF ALL, BEAR ALEXANDER.

GOOD.

BEAR ALEXANDER.

VERY GOOD FOR YOU.

FINE.

YEAH, BUT IT WAS SORT OF BEAR ALEXANDER AND LIKE HIS HIS MERRY MISFITS.

RIGHT.

AND USC’S DEFENSE.

WE HAD ARI ON LAST WEEK.

HE WAS AT THE USC GAME AGAINST, I THINK, WASHINGTON.

HE WAS LIKE THAT WAS THE SINGLE MOST DISTURBING, DISAPPOINTING DEFENSIVE EFFORT HE HAD SEEN IN PERSON.

AND HE’S NOT WRONG.

WELL, ONLY BECAUSE IT REMINDS HIM OF THE CHECK.

YOU DON’T HAVE TO WRITE TO ME AFTER THIS.

CORRECT.

HE DID REFERENCE THIS.

HE DID REFERENCE THE CHECK.

ANDY AND USC’S DEFENSE TOOK NO STEPS FORWARD.

THEY CONTINUE TO BE TERRIBLE.

AND THERE WERE LIKE, I THINK USC FANS EARLY ON POINTING TO LIKE SOME PASS RUSHING NUMBERS AGAINST SAN JOSE STATE OR SOMETHING.

I WAS LIKE, GUYS, IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND IT DIDN’T.

IT DIDN’T HAPPEN FOR USC WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONG THAT THIS DEFENSE WOULD BE OK.

MERELY DISAPPOINTING.

NO, IT WAS ONCE AGAIN, TERRIBLE.

AND I WAS WRONG.

AND NOW THEY STEAL UCLA’S DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR.

YEP.

DAN ANDERSON FROM THE RAMS.

YEP.

SO PERHAPS THAT CHANGES SOMETHING.

I’M NOT SURE IT WILL UNLESS LINCOLN RILEY IS OPEN TO PHILOSOPHICAL CHANGES.

I JUST DON’T I CAN I CAN TELL BY WATCHING THAT THEY ARE A TEAM THAT DOES NOT TAKE TACKLING SERIOUSLY AT PRACTICE.

LIKE WHEN YOU WATCH GEORGIA PLAY, WHEN YOU WATCH MICHIGAN PLAY LIKE THESE ARE TEAMS THAT HIT AT PRACTICE.

THESE ARE TEAMS THAT DEEP INTO THE SEASON STILL HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO DAYS A WEEK WHERE THEY ARE REALLY HITTING AT PRACTICE.

USC DOES NOT LOOK LIKE ONE OF THOSE TEAMS.

NO, THEY DON’T HIT A PRACTICE.

THEY DON’T HIT IT GAMES.

THEY MIGHT NOT TACKLE WHEN THEY’RE PLAYING MADDEN.

YOU DON’T SEE IT FROM USC AT ALL.

SO TO ME, IT’S MORE JUST LIKE I DON’T THINK THEY HAVE GUYS.

I DON’T THINK THEY RECRUIT LIKE THEY WANT TO BE GOOD AT DEFENSE.

I JUST DON’T THINK THEY HAVE THE GUYS TO PLAY GOOD DEFENSE.

WELL, THAT IS ALSO TRUE.

I MEAN, IF YOU GO BACK TO LINCOLN RILEY’S RECRUITING HISTORY, EVEN IN OKLAHOMA, THEY DID NOT THEY JUST DON’T SIGN TOP 100 DEFENSIVE GUYS FOR THE MOST PART.

THEY NEED TO START DOING THAT OR THEY WILL NEVER HAVE THE KIND OF DEFENSE THEY ACTUALLY WANT.

WERE YOU HIGH ON A SPECIFIC UNIT, A SPECIFIC PLAYER, A SPECIFIC COACH HEADING INTO THE SEASON WHERE YOU WERE POSITIVE THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE PROVEN RIGHT AND WERE COMICALLY WRONG?

WELL, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PENN STATE OFFENSE FOR ME.

OK, THAT WAS IT.

THAT WAS THE OFFENSE.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT THAT WAS THAT THAT WAS THE ONE I WAS LIKE, OK, THEY’RE GOING TO THE LIGHTS GOING TO COME ON.

IT’S GOING TO CLICK.

THE IOWA GAME FOR ME WAS LIKE THAT WAS THE FOOL’S GOLD.

RIGHT.

BUT THEY SCORE 31 POINTS IN THE RAIN AGAINST IOWA.

LIKE THEY’RE GOING TO BE FINE.

AND THEN THE OHIO STATE GAME HAPPENS.

AND I’M LIKE, WHAT’S WHAT?

JUST TRY SOMETHING.

YEAH.

AND THEY WOULDN’T TIE.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE?

LET ME CALL OUT KENTUCKY.

I WAS REALLY IN ON KENTUCKY THIS YEAR.

YOU WERE IN THE COEN ZONE.

YEAH, I WAS.

YEAH, I HAD I PULLED A QUOTE OUT HERE.

YOU COULD ARGUE THAT LIAM COEN SYSTEM WAS THE REASON FOR ALL THIS RIDICULOUS HYPE AROUND WILL LEVIS.

SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT HE’S BACK WITH ANOTHER SOLID QUARTERBACK.

AND I AM DELIRIOUS FOR DEVIN LEARY, END QUOTE.

GOOD LINE.

I THOUGHT SO.

STAND BY THE LINE.

I STAND BY THE LINE CONTENT.

BUT I DON’T KNOW IF IT WAS AS BAD AS SOME OF THE STATS MIGHT INDICATE FOR DEVIN LEARY.

BECAUSE I REMEMBER WE DID A DEEP DIVE OF LIKE SOME OF THE ADVANCED STUFF, DAN, FOR ONE OF THE PATREON EPISODES.

AND IT WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LIKE WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY’RE DOING HERE.

AND IT JUST DIDN’T TAKE FLIGHT THE WAY I EXPECTED WITH DEVIN LEARY.

KENTUCKY OFFENSE AND USC DEFENSE, I FEEL LIKE ARE ANALOGOUS.

IT’S THE HEAD COACH’S OVERARCHING PHILOSOPHY THAT PUTS THEM WHERE THEY ARE.

AND LIAM COEN JUST LEFT KENTUCKY TO GO BE THE TAMPA BAY BUCS OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR.

SO THEY’VE GOT TO FIND A NEW OC.

I DON’T THINK IF YOU’RE A CANDIDATE FOR THAT JOB THAT YOU GO INTO IT THINKING YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE NO HANDCUFFS ON YOU.

MARK STOOPS WANTS A CERTAIN TEMPO.

HE WANTS A CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN VIBE FROM HIS OFFENSE.

DON’T MESS IT UP FOR MY DEFENSE KIND OF THING.

AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN MAUL PEOPLE UP FRONT, RUN THE BALL, LIKE THE KENTUCKY FLORIDA GAME IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

LIKE THAT IS THE DREAM OF MARK STOOPS.

LIKE HE WANTS EVERY GAME TO BE LIKE THAT.

BUT THEY’RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH ON THE OFFENSIVE LINE TO DO THAT TO EVERYBODY THAT THEY PLAY.

AND YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE THE VERY TRAGIC PASSING OF JOHN SCHLARMAN THEIR OFFENSIVE LINE COACH A FEW YEARS AGO.

IT’S NOT THE SAME ANYMORE.

AND SO UNLESS THEY CAN GET THEIR LINE BACK UP TO THE LEVEL THAT IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO, YOU’RE NOT GOING TO DOMINATE ON THE GROUND.

YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN TO ADAPT A LITTLE BIT.

YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO PLAY WITH TEMPO A LITTLE BIT JUST TO JUST TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF BALANCE BECAUSE KENTUCKY HAS RECRUITED SOME GOOD PLAYERS AND SOME GOOD ATHLETES.

AND LIKE THEY’VE GOT A COUPLE OF YOUNG RECEIVERS, DANE KEY AND BARION BROWN.

I BELIEVE WHO ARE REALLY GOOD.

SO THE QUESTION IS LIKE WITH BROCK VANDAGRIFF, THE QUARTERBACK THAT’S COMING IN FROM GEORGIA, DO YOU CUT THAT LOOSE A LITTLE BIT?

DO YOU TRY TO TO JUICE THE TEMPO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU KNOW, OPEN THINGS UP?

OR ARE YOU GOING TO BE OVERWHELMINGLY CONSERVATIVE OFFENSIVELY?

AND IF YOU ARE, THIS IS JUST WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO GET.

AND MARK STOOPS, I THINK, HAS TOLD US WHO HE IS ENOUGH TIMES THAT WE SHOULD JUST BELIEVE HIM.

YEAH, THERE’S THERE’S ALSO THE ELEMENT OF AND IT’S NOT JUST IT’S NEVER JUST ONE PLAYER, BUT I ALWAYS ENJOY LOOKING AT PROGRAMS WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL.

AND THEN WHEN A KEY PLAYER LEAVES, YOU’RE LIKE, OH, IN RETROSPECT, THAT GUY WAS WAY BETTER THAN WE EVEN APPRECIATED.

MAYBE THAT’S WANDALE ROBINSON, RIGHT?

MAYBE WE HAVE A GUY THAT THAT IS SO GOOD THAT PERHAPS CERTAIN DEFICIENCIES ARE COVERED UP FOR OR HE IS THAT SAFETY VALVE BECAUSE WE’LL HAVE US HAS A SEASON BOTH, I THINK, WITH AND WITHOUT WANDALE ROBINSON AS WELL.

AND YOU COULD SEE SOME DIFFERENCES THERE.

AND THAT’S LIAM COEN AND NOT LIAM COEN.

RICH SANGARELLO.

YES.

AND SO THERE ARE THOSE GUYS ACROSS THE SPORT.

WE’RE LIKE, OH, MAN, IN RETROSPECT, THIS DUDE.

AND I REMEMBER THINKING ABOUT THAT ABOUT ALLEN ROBINSON.

LIKE HE ALWAYS HAD THESE LIKE KIND OF DISAPPOINTING QUARTERBACKS, BUT ALWAYS WOULD PUT UP THIRTEEN HUNDRED YARDS RECEIVING BOTH IN THE NFL AND IN COLLEGE.

YOU’RE LIKE, OH, IN RETROSPECT, THIS GUY IS JUST SO GOOD THAT HE WAS ABLE TO COVER UP.

I’VE GONE TWO STRAIGHT YEARS NOW OF TRYING TO SPEAK TAYVION ROBINSON INTO WANDALE ROBINSON AS THEY HAVE.

I MEAN, THAT WAS THE POINT WHEN THEY WENT AND GOT HIM.

THEY THOUGHT, OK, THIS IS PHYSICALLY, YOU KNOW, AND SKILL SET WISE, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD IN WANDALE, BUT IT’S NOT THE SAME.

IT’S NOT THE SAME THING.

I MEAN, WANDALE IS PLAYING IN THE PROS.

SO ALL RIGHT.

WHAT DO YOU GOT, DAN?

I WAS SUPER HIGH ON TEXAS TECH HEADING INTO THE YEAR LIKE JOEY MAGUIRE CAPTURES ME.

AND SO I WAS JUST IN ON THAT OFFENSE, TAKING A STEP FORWARD AND GENERATING MORE EXPLOSIVE PLAYS.

WHAT I DIDN’T ACCOUNT FOR WAS THE TYLER SHOUGH FACTOR.

HE’S JUST HE HAS BAD LUCK.

HE JUST HAS BAD LUCK.

HE KEEPS GETTING INJURED.

CAN I THROW A TYLER SHOUGH OBSERVATION IN?

PLEASE.

IS TYLER SHOUGH THE NEW MICHAEL PENIX JR.?

OH, MY GOD.

TYLER SHOUGH AT LOUISVILLE, FINALLY WITH A TYLER SHOUGH AT LOUISVILLE.

LAST CHANCE WITH A GUY WHO MAKES QUARTERBACKS LOOK GREAT.

GETTING AN EARLY PLAY FOR THIS AWARD IN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE.

ANDY.

YEAH, YES, EXACTLY.

RIGHT.

HOW MANY RECEIVERS DOES TYLER SHOUGH HAVE A LOUISVILLE IN 2024?

I HAVE NO IDEA.

NOT JAMARI THRASH, BUT BUT THEY DID GET SOME THEY DID GET SOME GUYS OUT OF THE PORTAL WHO RIGHT WHO COULD BE VERY GOOD.

SO YEAH, I JUST HAVE TYLER SHOUGH BAGGAGE WATCHING THAT OREGON AND HE WOULD LOOK REALLY GOOD FOR A WEEK AND THEN PANIC AT THE END OF GAMES.

AND YOU KNOW, THE BAD LUCK WITH INJURIES AT TEXAS TECH AND LIKE THE TEXAS TECH DEFENSE CONTINUES TO IMPROVE.

YOU KNOW, THEY HIRED WELL ON THE DEFENSIVE SIDE OF THE BALL.

THEY’VE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE PORTAL ON THE DEFENSIVE SIDE OF THE BALL.

THEY BASICALLY WERE A PICK SIX AWAY FROM BEATING OREGON AT HOME AND A HUGE WIN, BUT JUST COULDN’T SUSTAIN.

THEY BECAME A RUNNING TEAM.

THEY REALIZED THEY HAD TO JUST GIVE THE BALL TO TAJ BROOKS AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.

AND THAT WAS SMART, BUT IT WASN’T WINNING THEM A TON OF GAMES THIS YEAR.

AND SO I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE AN EIGHT.

WELL, REMEMBER, ANDREW PEASLEY.

YEAH.

PUT THE STAKE IN HIM EARLY.

YEAH.

ANDREW PEASLEY, THE VERY FUN QUARTERBACK FOR WYOMING.

AND NO, LOOK, YOU DON’T GO OUT TO LARAMIE AND JUST ROLL YOUR HELMETS OUT THERE AND WIN A GAME.

I’M A BIG ALTITUDE GUY, TOO.

AND I SCREWED THAT UP.

YEAH, I’M PUTTING TOGETHER A TAKE BOARD THAT WE’RE GOING TO PUT SOMEWHERE HERE IN THE STUDIO AND I’M GOING TO JOT THAT ONE.

ANDY’S IS MY TYLER SHOUGH TAKING A YOU KNOW, LEAD IT OFF.

I LIKE THAT.

TWENTY TWENTY FOUR.

STAY AWAY.

STAPLES.

IF YOU’LL GIVE ME SOME PERMISSION TO USE THAT ON MY TAKE BOARD, WE CAN INCLUDE IT AS OUR FIRST HUNDRED PERCENT.

ALL RIGHT.

BECAUSE I JUST LOOK AT IT AS A GUY WITH A LOT OF PHYSICAL TALENT WHO’S HAD VERY BAD LUCK, WHICH IS WHAT PENIX WAS AT INDIANA.

AND HE’S ALSO WHAT?

TWENTY EIGHT.

LIKE HE’S AROUND FOR A MINUTE LIKE MICHAEL PENIX.

YEAH.

BECAUSE TYLER SHOUGH WAS SIGNED THE YEAR BEFORE TY THOMPSON SIGNED AT OREGON.

RIGHT.

WOW.

AND TY THOMPSON JUST LEFT OREGON AFTER WHAT?

THREE YEARS.

SO, YEP.

THIS IS IT IS.

YEAH, I JUST I’M HOPEFUL FOR THAT.

THE JOEY MAGUIRE THING IS INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE I WONDERED, IS THIS A CASE WHERE EVERYBODY’S JUST GETTING EXCITED BECAUSE THIS IS A LIKABLE COACH WHO GIVES GOOD QUOTES AND GOOD INTERVIEWS?

I DON’T THINK THAT’S NECESSARILY THE CASE ENTIRELY, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THEM AT THE END OF THIS SEASON, THEY WERE FIGURING SOME STUFF OUT.

YEAH.

AND SO I THINK I THINK THERE’S A CHANCE THAT THEY THEY WIND UP BEING A PRETTY GOOD PROGRAM.

THEY JUST NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE AND HOW TO HOW TO BEST IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, CREDIT TO THEM BECAUSE LIKE ZACH KITTLEY IS A PURE AIR RAID GUY, BUT THEY REALIZE RUN THE BALL, PLAY DEFENSE MIGHT BE THE WAY WE HAVE TO WIN.

AND SO WHEN COACHES CAN CAN UNDERSTAND THAT AND KIND OF PUT EGOS ASIDE AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE’RE GOING TO DO IT, IT TAKES A WIN.

I THINK THAT’S AN ENCOURAGING SIGN.

AND WE’RE PUTTING THIS ON ON SIGNING DAY, BY THE WAY.

I THINK THEY SIGNED EITHER THE BEST OR THE SECOND BEST RECEIVER IN TEXAS, LIKE A FIVE STAR RECEIVER.

LIKE HE’S RESONATING ON THE TRAIL.

YEAH, IT COUNTS.

YEAH, IT DOES.

AND SO I HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT ALSO IS IN THE LONE STAR STATE WHERE I WAS I JUST KIND OF SUPER DOWN ON TEXAS GOING INTO THE SEASON.

I LIKE I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO WIN QUITE A FEW GAMES, BUT I JUST ASSUMED THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO LOSE A COUPLE OF GAMES THAT THEY SHOULDN’T LOSE, THAT THAT WOULD JUST PROP CROP UP AGAIN.

AND THEY DIDN’T.

THEY LOST OKLAHOMA IN A VERY TIGHT GAME AND THEY THEY KEPT IT TOGETHER.

THE REST IS LIKE THE K-STATE GAME WAS WON.

THE OLD TEXAS WOULD HAVE EASILY LOST.

THEY HAD AT LEAST THREE GAMES.

THE OLD TEXAS WOULD HAVE LOST.

YEAH.

AND SO I’M JUST I’M SUPER IMPRESSED WITH SARK AND WHAT THEY’VE DONE AND THE WAY THEY’VE DEVELOPED LIKE THEY’VE GOT A BUNCH OF GUYS THAT ARE GETTING DRAFTED NOW.

THEY’VE GOT A BUNCH OF YOUNGER GUYS WHO ARE GOING TO GET DRAFTED IN A YEAR OR TWO LIKE THAT IS THEY ARE BUILDING FOR WHAT SHOULD BE A YEAR IN, YEAR OUT SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

AND I GUESS I WAS SO JADED BY THE END OF THE MACK BROWN ERA, THE CHARLIE STRONG YEARS, THE TOM HERMAN YEARS.

I JUST ASSUMED THEY WERE GOING TO BE SAME OLD, SAME OLD.

AND I WAS WRONG.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PART OF IT WAS NOT HAVING A TON OF FAITH IN QUINN EWERS.

IT’S THE SAME REASON I PICKED WASHINGTON TO BEAT TEXAS IN THE SUGAR BOWL.

I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THAT PROBLEM SOLVES ITSELF ANYWAY.

EITHER QUINN EWERS IS GOING TO BE GOOD OR ARCH MANNING IS GOING TO BE THE GUY.

RIGHT.

AND I’M LIKE, I WILL PROBABLY WIND UP BEING VERY HIGH ON TEXAS GOING INTO THIS SEASON BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE THEY HAVE PROVEN ME WRONG ON ALL THE THINGS I WAS DOUBTING THEM ABOUT.

YEAH.

I ALSO DON’T HAVE TEXAS’S SCHEDULE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE, THE PURE CHANGE OR THE PURE VULNERABILITY IN THE SEC, IF YOU’RE A TEAM AS TALENTED AS TEXAS MAKES THE HORNS SUPER INTERESTING THIS YEAR.

SO I THINK YOU’RE RIGHT.

MORE QUOTES, WHICH IS ALWAYS FUN.

QUOTE I’M HEAVY ON MIAMI.

YOU BROUGHT THE RECEIPTS.

YOU BROUGHT YOUR OWN RECEIPTS.

YEAH.

QUOTE, THEY’RE TOO TALENTED TO FAIL LIKE THEY DID LAST SEASON.

UH HUH.

END QUOTE.

UH, ENDED UP SEVEN AND SIX WITH THE BOWL LOST TO RUTGERS.

BUT YOUR WEEK TWO IS GREAT, RIGHT?

YOUR WEEK TWO WITH THE WIN OVER TEXAS A&M.

YOU’RE PROBABLY CHEST PUFFING.

YEAH, I WAS FEELING MYSELF.

BUT SEVEN AND SIX LOST THE BOWL TO RUTGERS.

WE TALKED MORE ABOUT RUTGERS LAST EPISODE THAN WE DID MIAMI.

AND NOW HERE WE STAND COMING INTO YEAR THREE, THE MARIO CRISTOBAL ERA, ANDY, DAN, UM, WHERE I, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY GOT CAM WARD.

WE’RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

ARE WE?

MAYBE I DON’T LISTEN.

I’M TRYING TO TALK NICELY ABOUT MIAMI FOOTBALL AGAIN.

I DON’T KNOW WHY CAM WARD MAKES FOR A GREAT TWITTER HIGHLIGHT.

HE REALLY DOES.

BUT MAYBE THE REST OF THE EXPERIENCE, THE RECRUITING UNDER CRISTOBAL REMAINS STRONG.

THEY’RE OBVIOUSLY OUT THERE IN THE PORTAL.

IT SEEMS LIKE HE’S KICKED UP A FAIR AMOUNT OF DUST.

NOW IT IS REALLY JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING THE PIECES IN PLACE AND TRANSLATING THAT TO WINS.

PURELY THEORETICAL HERE, BUT IF THEY TAKE A KNEE AGAINST GEORGIA TECH, HOW DIFFERENT IS THEIR SEASON?

IT’S TRUE.

I THINK THAT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH EVERYTHING.

SO THE PROBLEM IS, AND AGAIN, I CONSIDER MYSELF A BIT OF A MARIO CRISTOBAL EXPERT AFTER THE YEARS I WATCHED HIM.

THE PROBLEM IS OVERTIME AGAINST VIRGINIA, RIGHT?

THE PROBLEM IS LIKE MIAMI JUST NEVER LOOKS LIKE, OH, THEY WERE LIKE JUST 17 POINTS BETTER THAN THIS AVERAGE TEAM.

LIKE THEY PLAY UP TO AND DOWN TO EVERYBODY.

AND SO LIKE IT’S A COMPETITIVE GAME AGAINST FLORIDA STATE, A TEAM THAT ARGUABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PLAYOFF AND CAME DOWN TO IT.

AND YOU CAN LOOK AT, YOU CAN DEFEND IT FROM A FLORIDA STATE PERSPECTIVE THAT MIAMI ALWAYS GETS UP FOR THESE GAMES, BUT YOU’RE GETTING UP TO AND DOWN TO WITH MARIO CRISTOBAL TEAMS.

AND SO THAT’S STILL THE ISSUE THAT LIKE, IN TERMS OF PURE TALENT, IN TERMS OF PURE POTENTIAL, MIAMI SHOULD BE 10 TO 13 POINTS BETTER THAN GEORGIA TECH.

THEY JUST SHOULD BE.

AND IT’S UP TO AND DOWN TO EVERY WEEK.

SO THAT’S THE DIFFICULTY IF YOU’RE A TY HILDENBRANDT TYPE AND SAYING THEY’RE TOO TALENTED TO DO THIS.

LIKE, ALMOST DOESN’T MATTER.

YEAH.

IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW TALENTED THEY ARE.

IT JUST MATTERS HOW TALENTED THE OTHER TEAM IS.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE THAT’S WHO THEY’RE GOING TO PLAY LIKE.

YEP.

DAN, WHAT DO YOU GOT?

I HAD VANDERBILT IN A BOWL GAME, EVERYBODY, AFTER A NICE 2022 THAT SAW THEM BEAT WHAT FLORIDA AND KENTUCKY.

YEAH.

I WAS LIKE, CLARK LEA AND THESE DOORS HAVE TURNED A CORNER.

THEY’RE LEARNING HOW TO LOSE CLOSE, WIN CLOSE, WHATEVER.

THEY’RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

SPOILER ALERT.

THEY DID NOT.

NAH, THEY JUST.

AND ONE OF THOSE, THEY’RE ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT’S JUST GOING TO BE A BIG NIL AND PORTAL VICTIM PROGRAM THAT IF THEY DEVELOP SOMEBODY LIKE RAY DAVIS, HE’S LIKE, WELL, WHAT CAN I DO WITH THIS NEW CACHE THAT I HAVE?

AND IT WAS GO TO KENTUCKY AND LOOK STRONG FOR A MONTH.

AND SO THAT’S THAT’S GOING TO BE THE DIFFICULTY.

NOW WE ENTER INTO THE JERRY KILL-DIEGO PAVIA ERA.

AND I’M GOING TO TALK MYSELF INTO THE DOORS.

THAT’S JUST WHAT I’M GOING TO DO.

BUT NOW THAT WAS, IN RETROSPECT, PRETTY INDEFENSIBLE.

I DO LOVE THAT DIEGO PAVIA IS NOW THE QUARTERBACK AT VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY.

THE MAN WHO GOT IN TROUBLE FOR TAKING A LEAK ON THE NEW MEXICO INDOOR FOOTBALL FACILITY LOGO AS AS TRIBUTE TO THE RIVALRY BETWEEN NEW MEXICO STATE AND NEW MEXICO IS NOW VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY.

SO I LOVE THAT FIRE.

THEY NEED THAT.

AND THEN HE HE HAD HIS HELMET TWISTED AROUND ON HIS HEAD VERY EARLY ON IN THE SEASON TO WHICH IS ALSO ALSO HAPPENED.

SO EXCITED.

SO I MEAN, BUT JERRY KILL IS ARGUABLY THE CLOSEST THING THIS SPORT HAS OR ONE OF THE CLOSEST THINGS THE SPORT HAS TO LIKE A CHOPPED MASTER CHAMPION.

GIVE THEM WHATEVER INGREDIENTS HE’S GOING TO PULL OUT A FLAMBE IN SOME KIND OF FASHION.

WHAT TATTOO DOES HE GET IF VANDY MAKES A BOWL IN TWENTY TWENTY FOUR?

OH, THE ANCHOR TRAMP STAMP IS PROBABLY THE MOVE.

THE ANCHOR IS DOWN, ANCHOR DOWN, BABY.

YEAH.

ANDY, WHAT DO YOU GOT HERE?

YOU GOT ANY OTHER ONES?

YEAH, I’LL GIVE YOU A GOOD ONE.

I WAS CONVINCED CLEMSON WAS WAS BACK.

OH, YEAH.

BUT BECAUSE DABO SWINNEY MADE THE DIFFICULT DECISION TO FIRE BRANDON STREETER AND THEN HIRES GARRETT RILEY, I WAS THINKING, OK, HE IS UNDERSTANDING THAT HE’S GOTTEN TOO INSULAR.

HE NEEDS TO GO OUTSIDE, BRING IN FRESH BLOOD.

YOU THINK ABOUT THE HIRING OF CHAD MORRIS, THE HIRING OF BRENT VENABLES.

THOSE WERE THINGS THAT REALLY LAUNCHED CLEMSON INTO ITS ITS DOMINANT ERA.

AND I THOUGHT, OK, THIS IS THIS IS A WILLINGNESS TO SHOW, HEY, WE’VE GOTTEN A LITTLE TOO.

TOO INSULAR HERE.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

AND THEY LOOK LIKE THE SAME OLD THING.

AND NOW I LIKE I’VE HAD ALREADY IN MY EAR FOR TWO YEARS SAYING CLEMSON’S NOT COMING BACK TO WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE DABO IS NOT WILLING TO ADAPT.

AND I WAS LIKE, NO, THIS SEE, THIS IS THE WILLINGNESS TO ADAPT.

IT WASN’T ENOUGH.

LIKE, YOU’VE GOT IT.

YOU’VE GOT TO START DOING WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING.

YOU HAVE TO USE THE TRANSFER PORTAL.

YOU CAN’T JUST HAVE GLARING HOLES IN YOUR ROSTER AND EXPECT TO BEAT THE TEAMS YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO BE WITHOUT FILLING THEM.

AND I ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE FLORIDA STATE GAME THIS YEAR.

AND I LOOK, I’M NOT SAYING CLEMSON WOULD HAVE GOTTEN KEON COLEMAN HAD THEY TRIED TO GET HIM WHEN HE CAME OUT OF THE PORTAL.

BUT JUST THEORETICALLY, IF YOU PUT KEON COLEMAN ON CLEMSON IN THAT GAME, CLEMSON WINS THAT GAME AND WINS THE ACC.

YEAH, LIKELY.

MAN, THE CLEMSON THING IS TOUGH BECAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THEM IN A VACUUM AND NOT LIKE, WELL, IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN, LIKE THAT DOESN’T EXIST.

NO, NO, BECAUSE THEY DON’T THEY DON’T PLAY BY THE SAME RULES AS EVERYBODY ELSE ANYMORE.

RIGHT.

AND I’M NOT SAYING THAT THEY’RE AN OUTLAW PROGRAM, SAYING THAT THEY’RE THE ONES THAT JUST REFUSE TO CHANGE.

AND LIKE YOU SEE HOW QUICKLY ALL THESE OTHER PROGRAMS AND NOT ELITE PROGRAMS, BUT THESE OTHER PROGRAMS CAN FILL THE HOLES IN THEIR ROSTER, CAN PAPER OVER SOME THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM IN THE OLD SYSTEM.

ESPECIALLY A RECEIVER WHERE LIKE YOU HAVE THIS REPUTATION, DABOWS GOES BACK TO HIS TIME AS A RECEIVERS COACH AND YOU LIKE YOU SEE LIKE THE YEAR OVER YEAR, RAY RAY MCLEOD, JUSTIN ROSS, TEE HIGGINS, ALL THESE DUDES AND RECEIVERS LIKE THE POSITION THAT YOU IMMEDIATELY GET SO MUCH BETTER AT THROUGH THE.

YES, THERE’S A CASE TO BE MADE THAT THE MOMENT CLEMSON STOPPED HAVING THOSE RECEIVERS WHO COULD GO UP AND WIN 50-50 BALLS, THAT’S THE MOMENT WHEN IT STARTED TO GO A LITTLE BIT DOWNHILL, JUST A LITTLE BIT DOWNHILL.

RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT GONE OUT THERE.

THEY HAVE NOT FOUND THOSE GUYS.

THERE’S ALSO A CASE TO BE MADE THAT JUST LIKE PHILOSOPHICALLY, I KNOW WE FOCUS IN ON THE TRANSFER PORTAL AND NOT FILLING THOSE ROSTER GAPS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT HE WENT OUT THERE.

I REMEMBER WHEN HE MADE THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR MOVE GARRETT RILEY, LIKE THIS IS, I HEARD IT TOO, ANDY.

THIS IS, THIS IS DABO BEING COLD BLOODED, BEING EXACTING.

HE IS SHOWING THAT KILLER INSTINCT.

THE OFFENSE KIND OF LOOKED THE SAME.

IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME.

YEAH.

THERE WASN’T A WHOLE LOT OF ADAPTATION REGARDLESS OF WHO WAS RUNNING IT.

AND SO IT’S LIKE WHATEVER WE MAKE OF THE TRANSFER PORTAL AND DABO’S RELATIONSHIP WITH IT AND NIL AND ALL THAT STUFF, THOSE ARE GOING TO GET THE HEADLINES.

BUT PHILOSOPHICALLY THERE HAS BEEN AN UNWILLINGNESS TO CHANGE JUST ACROSS THE BOARD THAT I THINK WE ARE SEEING, ESPECIALLY SO NOW WITHOUT LIKE A GAME BREAKER, A QUARTERBACK, A GAME BREAKER AT WIDE RECEIVER.

LIKE IT’S JUST, IT’S BECOMING MORE EVIDENT NOW.

AND THE DEFENSE HASN’T EVEN GOTTEN THAT MUCH WORSE.

NO, IT’S STAYED PRETTY GOOD.

YEAH.

I MEAN, LOOK AT THE PLAYERS THEY MADE THIS YEAR.

SO MATT LUKE COACHED IN THE OFFENSIVE LINE, CHRIS RUMP COACHED THE DEFENSIVE LINE.

THOSE GUYS ARE GREAT, BUT I’M NOT SURE IT MATTERS NOW.

YOU NEED GUYS AND YOU NEED TO BE WILLING.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, NOTRE DAME AND GERAD PARKER AND SAM HARTMAN.

SHOULD I DO THE THING?

I TRIED TO TELL YOU TY.

YEAH.

IF YOUR SCHOOL IS, IF YOU’RE A MAJOR SCHOOL HIRING A COORDINATOR AND NOBODY IS TRYING TO HIRE THAT COORDINATOR, NOT A GREAT SIGN.

I REMEMBER WHEN THEY MADE IT OFFICIAL ABOUT GERAD PARKER, AFTER EVERYBODY GOT DONE WRITING THE NEWS STORIES ABOUT HE’S GOT THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH MARCUS FREEMAN, THEY USED TO CARPOOL TO WORK TOGETHER AT PURDUE.

AFTER ALL OF THAT HAD KIND OF CLEARED.

I REMEMBER LIKE JUST SORT OF ASKING AROUND PEOPLE LIKE, HEY, DOES THIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT’S THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE ON OFFENSE NOW?

AND THE OVERWHELMING SENTIMENT WAS IT SHOULD LOOK MOSTLY THE SAME.

IT SHOULD LOOK MOSTLY THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.

THEY’RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING CRAZY.

THEY’RE NOT GOING TO, IT’S JUST GOING TO LOOK A LOT OF THE SAME AND THEY’RE GOING TO BE FINE.

THEY GOT SAM HARTMAN COMING IN.

RECEIVER WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

THAT’S NOT A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY, BUT IT JUST SEEMED AS IF IT’S GOING TO BE PLUG AND PLAY WITH HARTMAN.

THEY’RE GOING TO DO A LOT OF THE SAME STUFF AND THE OFFENSE IS GOING TO BE FINE.

IT’S GOING TO WORK.

IT’S GOING TO JUST TRUST US.

IT’S GOING TO BE GOOD.

IT DIDN’T REALLY, UM, YOU LOST TO THE TEAM.

WE JUST TRASHED.

YEAH.

BADLY, BADLY BUY STOCK.

YEAH.

AND SO, HOWEVER, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO NEED TO DO A 30 FOR 30 OR A PODCAST LIMITED RUN SERIES ON HOW THEY GOT TROY TO TAKE GERAD PARKER.

BUT UM, THE GERAD PARKER EXPERIENCE WAS NOT PLEASANT AND DEFINITELY FRUSTRATING FOR THOSE OF US WHO WATCH EVERY NOTRE DAME SNAP AND CHEER ON NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL.

UM, IT LIKE THE SAM HARTMAN THING.

I THINK I TALKED TO YOU, DAN, ABOUT THIS.

LIKE IF YOU PRO RATE HIS PERFORMANCE AGAINST DREW PYNE’S, IT WASN’T ALL THAT BETTER.

AND LIKE, IT JUST DIDN’T WORK THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO.

I’M NOT HERE TO DUNK ON MARCUS FREEMAN OR SAM HARTMAN OR GERAD PARKER, BUT I WAS WRONG ABOUT THAT.

I JUST ASSUMED IT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER THAN IT WAS.

I THINK WE NEEDED TO POUR COLD WATER ON YOU AFTER LIKE THE NC STATE GAME.

SO, YOU KIDDING ME?

WELL, I MEAN, LET’S, LET’S REMEMBER HE WASN’T THE FIRST CHOICE.

I MEAN, THE WHOLE ANDY LUDWIG THING HAPPENED.

LIKE THAT WASN’T A FEVER DREAM.

LIKE THAT WAS ANDY LUDWIG AT A BASKETBALL GAME.

AND THEN IT’S LIKE, OH CRAP, WE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THE BUYOUT WAS.

AND THEY DIDN’T JUST PAY THE BUYOUT.

THEY DIDN’T JUST PAY THE BUYOUT.

THEY ENDED UP WITH PARKER.

UM, IT SORT OF FELT LIKE THEY WANTED TO HIRE PARKER FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT HAD TO AT LEAST LOOK ELSEWHERE FIRST TO SEE WHAT KIND OF INTEREST THERE WAS IN THAT POSITION.

YEAH, THERE WERE COLLIN KLEIN RUMORS.

I REMEMBER.

I JUST, I JUST ASSUMED THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN IT WAS.

AND I FEEL LIKE THE MOMENT DURING THE SEASON WHEN WE ALL REALIZED THAT IT WASN’T REALLY THAT MUCH BETTER, IT WAS JUST MORE A FUNCTION OF THEIR SCHEDULE TO THAT POINT.

AT THAT POINT, IT WAS TOO LATE FOR ME.

IT WAS LIKE, WELL, I’M DEAD WRONG ON THIS ONE.

AND I’M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.

WAS THAT THE, WAS THAT WHEN IT, WHEN IT, UH, THE DUKE GAME, THE DUKE GAME, IT WAS TOUGH.

THE DUKE GAME WAS TOUGH.

I’VE GOT AN OFFENSIVE ONE THAT I WAS SO SURE OF AND SO EXCITED.

LIKE YOU PROBABLY NEEDED A COLD WATER UP, POUR COLD WATER ON ME.

I WAS POSITIVE JOE MILTON WAS GOING TO BE AN ASSASSIN IN THAT SYSTEM FOR TENNESSEE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE BOWL GAME AGAINST CLEMSON.

I WAS LIKE, WELL, I WAS ON, I WAS ON THE JOE MILTON HYPE TRAIN AFTER THE ORANGE BOWL TOO.

I WAS WITH YOU THERE.

WE ALL FOCUSED A LITTLE TOO MUCH ON HIS FAMILIARITY WITH THE TENNESSEE SYSTEM.

YEAH.

AND WELL, IT’S JUST GIANT ARM IN A SYSTEM THAT LOVES A GIANT ARM.

IT WASN’T REALLY THE, IT WASN’T EVEN THE FAMILIARITY WITH THE SYSTEM.

IT WAS, I WATCHED HIM MAKE A COUPLE OF THROWS IN THE ORANGE BOWL.

NOW, IF I’D WATCHED THE VANDERBILT GAME CLOSELY THE WEEK BEFORE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY TURNED OFF.

BUT I WATCHED A COUPLE TIGHT WINDOW THROWS IN THE ORANGE BOWL THAT WERE SO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I WAS USED TO SEEING FROM JOE MILTON WHEN HE PLAYED IN GAMES AND HE JUST LOOKED MORE ACCURATE.

AND THAT GAME WAS THE ULTIMATE FOOL’S GOLD.

IT WAS, IF YOU COULD PLAY EVERY GAME LIKE THIS, YOU’RE GOING TO BE AWESOME.

BUT HE HADN’T PLAYED EVERY GAME LIKE THAT IN THE GAMES THAT HE’D STARTED IN THE PAST.

AND HE DIDN’T PLAY EVERY GAME LIKE THAT.

AND SO YOU GOT, YOU GOT THE JOE MILTON EXPERIENCE THAT THE PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN SAW AND YOU GOT THE JOE MILTON EXPERIENCE THAT THEY SAW EARLY ON AT TENNESSEE THAT CAUSED THEM TO SWITCH TO HAND AND HOOKER.

AND YEAH, LIKE IT ACTUALLY, TENNESSEE ENDED UP AS LIKE A RUSHING TEAM.

THEY BECAME LIKE, THEY’RE LIKE, OH, WE NEED TO JUST RUN IT WAY MORE BECAUSE THESE DUDES SEEM TO BE MORE.

WELL, THE OTHER THING, THE OTHER THING WITH JOE THAT I DON’T THINK I REALIZE, AND I DON’T THINK PEOPLE APPRECIATED JOE WAS NOT A GREAT READ OPTION GUY.

NO, HE DID NOT.

AND I’VE ASKED QUARTERBACKS ABOUT THIS.

CAUSE I DON’T UNDERSTAND LIKE, HOW DO YOU LEARN TO KNOW WHAT, WHEN TO PULL THE BALL AND WHEN TO LET THE BACK TAKE IT?

I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE VERY COMPLICATED.

AND WHEN YOU ASK QUARTERBACKS WHO ARE GOOD AT IT, THEY’RE LIKE, I DON’T KNOW WHY I KNOW THAT.

I JUST KNOW THAT.

AND IT IS VERY INSTINCTUAL.

AND SO JOE DID NOT HAVE THE INSTINCTS THAT HENDON HAD FOR THAT, OR THAT A LOT OF THE QUARTERBACKS WHO ARE REALLY GOOD AT THAT HAVE, NICO SEEMS TO HAVE THAT.

SO LIKE RIGHT THERE, TENNESSEE’S OFFENSE, LIKE IF YOU WANT TO BUY STOCK IN SOMETHING, YOU WOULD EXPECT TENNESSEE OFFENSE TO IMPROVE JUST BASED ON THAT.

THE FEEL.

YEAH, I AGREE.

I ALSO, I THOUGHT GRAHAM MERTZ WAS GOING TO BE A DISASTER AT FLORIDA FULLY IN THE LIKE, HE TURNED OUT FINE.

YEAH, TOTALLY FINE.

IN LIKE THE DANNY ETLING ZONE OF LIKE, HEY, THIS GUY’S FINE.

GREAT DUDE, BY THE WAY.

AND HE’S KC GUY, VERY PROUD OF HIS KC BARBECUE.

OH, OKAY.

VERY PROUD, STAUNCH DEFENDER OF THE KC BARBECUE JOINTS.

LOVES THE STICKY RIBS.

HIS HIS IPHONE CAMERA ROLL, VERY SIMILAR TO MINE.

LOTS OF PICTURES OF BARBECUE IN IT.

THERE YOU GO.

GREAT.

ANDY, WE GOT TIME FOR ONE MORE FROM YOU.

ACTUALLY, DAN, YOU START RATTLING.

I’M GOING TO, I GOT TO FIND IT BECAUSE I, I WAS WRONG ON SO MUCH.

IT’S HARD TO IDENTIFY INDIVIDUAL THINGS.

SO YOU, YOU GO AHEAD.

I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, HAROLD PERKINS, MAASON SMITH, BIG TIME TRANSFERS IN THE DEFENSIVE BACKFIELD, LSU’S DEFENSE CAN’T MISS BABY.

THEY MISSED.

THEY DEFINITELY MISSED THIS YEAR.

I HAVE A SLEEPER DANGEROUS WAZZU ON HERE IN THE PACK. 12, TWO AND SEVEN IN THE CONFERENCE, NOT SLEEPER, NOT DANGEROUS.

I REMEMBER THAT.

THREW FOR A BUNCH OF YARDS IN EUGENE.

I REMEMBER THAT WE HAD LIKE NOTHING ON LIBERTY.

LIBERTY ENDED UP REPRESENTING THE G5 IN THE NEW YEAR’S SIX BOWLS.

AND SO THEY RODE AN ADVANTAGEOUS SCHEDULE, BUT A REALLY FUN OFFENSE WITH JAMEY CHADWELL.

THEY WON A BUNCH OF GAMES.

THEY WON CONFERENCE USA AND THEY’RE YOUR G5 REP.

JUST THAT WAS BEING WRONG BY IGNORING.

I HAVE A QUOTE FROM YOU IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT.

PLEASE QUOTE THE IOWA OFFENSE CAN’T POSSIBLY GET ANY WORSE.

AND I DID SAY THAT.

I DID SAY THAT.

YEAH.

AND I THOUGHT, WHAT DID I CALL IT?

WE CALLED IT THE FERENTZ FLUFF UP THAT THEY WOULD JUST LIKE RUN A TRAIN ON UTAH STATE TO INFLATE THE AVERAGE TO GET.

NOPE.

I’M SORRY.

ALL THESE SEXUAL REFERENCES TO IOWA’S OFFENSE JUST DO NOT COMPUTE WITH ME.

SO I WAS WRONG.

I WAS WRONG ON IOWA’S OFFENSE NOT BEING ABLE TO.

WELL, ALSO I SAW LIKE ERICK ALL, CADE MCNAMARA.

AND I THINK BOTH OF THOSE GUYS GOT HURT PRETTY EARLY ON.

RIGHT.

THAT’S RIGHT.

I WAS SO CLOSE TO HOME.

I PREDICTED MY ALMA MATER WOULD BE SEVEN AND FIVE AND THEY WOUND UP FIVE AND SEVEN FLORIDA.

THE REASON I SAID SEVEN AND FIVE IS I EXPECTED AN INCREASE IN BASIC COMPETENCY BY FLORIDA.

AND YOU SAW SOME SLOPPINESS MISTAKES IN THAT FIRST SEASON.

AND I WAS QUICKLY DISABUSED OF THIS GAME ONE WHEN FLOOR IS LIKE TROTTING OUT 10 GUYS ON THE FIELD FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

GUYS ARE WEARING THE SAME NUMBER ON THE FIELD AT THE SAME TIME.

LIKE THEY JUST STARTED SLOPPY AND STAYED SLOPPY.

THEY HAD MULTIPLE SITUATIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHERE THEY WOULD PUT 10 GUYS OUT ON THE FIELD GOAL BLOCK TEAM LIKE THE CORE COMPETENCY NEVER GOT BETTER.

AND LET’S PUT IT THIS WAY.

I’M NOT EXPECTING AN IMPROVEMENT IN THAT DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I DON’T SEE BASED ON WHAT’S EVEN THOUGH THEY’VE MADE SOME STAFF CHANGES, I DON’T SEE ENOUGH TO SUGGEST THAT THE OVERARCHING PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE FIXED.

BUT THE BIG QUESTION NOW IS WHERE’S DJ LAGWAY GONNA TRANSFER TO?

NOW STOP IT, DAN.

LET THESE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR HOPE FOR A FEW MONTHS.

I KNOW.

GET THEIR HOPIUM.

I WAS DEAD TO RIGHTS ON OKLAHOMA STATE BEFORE THE SEASON.

I HAD THEM DEAD TO RIGHTS.

OH YEAH.

HOW CAN YOU BE DEAD TO RIGHTS ON OKLAHOMA STATE?

THIS IS A TEAM THAT GOT BLOWN OUT BY SOUTH ALABAMA AND THEN SUDDENLY WAS ONE OF THE BEST TEAMS IN THE BIG 12.

I HAVE HAD THIS FLIP-FLOPPING RELATIONSHIP WITH OKLAHOMA STATE ALL SEASON LONG.

FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, FRANKLY.

BEFORE THE SEASON, I HAD QUOTE, “IF EVERYTHING POPS AND OKLAHOMA STATE HITS THE OVER AND WINS EIGHT OR NINE GAMES, THEN DOT, DOT, DOT.”

SO I WAS LIKE, I’M GOING TO GIVE MYSELF PARTIAL CREDIT FOR OKLAHOMA STATE BECAUSE BEFORE THE SEASON I WAS REALLY DOWN ON THEM.

AFTER THE BYE WEEK WHEN THEY BEAT, I THINK KANSAS STATE.

ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.

YEAH, ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.

I WAS PICKING OKLAHOMA STATE EVERY WEEK.

AND I THINK I DID SO ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL MAYBE THE BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

I WAS IN ON OKLAHOMA STATE FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

SO I AM STILL VERY BEARISH ON OKLAHOMA STATE LONG-TERM, BUT I NEED TO CALL MYSELF OUT BECAUSE I WAS REALLY DOWN ON THIS PROGRAM.

THEY ENDED UP WINNING 10 GAMES AND MADE IT TO THE BIG 12 FINAL.

I WAS OUT ON MIKE GUNDY AND NOW I THINK I’M BACK IN BECAUSE HE WAS ONE I WAS SURE WAS NOT GOING TO ADAPT AND WAS GOING TO JUST LET IT ALL FALL APART.

HE’S ADAPTING.

DID YOU NOTICE WHAT HIS TRANSFER PORTAL PHILOSOPHY WAS FOR HIS OWN TEAM DURING THE BOWL SEASON?

LIKE, “OH, YOU WANT TO ENTER THE PORTAL?

OKAY, THAT’S COOL.

JUST MAKE IT A PRACTICE.”

LIKE, HIS OWN SON TRANSFERRED OUT.

HE GOT RID OF HIS OWN SON.

RIGHT.

SO I AM ACTUALLY NOW KIND OF TURNING THE CORNER ON GUNDY BECAUSE I NEVER DOUBTED MIKE GUNDY AS AN ON-FIELD COACH.

STILL DON’T.

BUT I WAS NOT SURE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF PROGRAM MANAGEMENT WITH ALL THESE CHANGES BECAUSE HE DIDN’T SEEM TO BE WILLING TO ADAPT.

I DO THINK HE’S PROBABLY BEING MORE ADAPTABLE THAN WE’RE GIVING HIM CREDIT FOR.

SO I AM NOW BACK OPEN TO THE POSSIBILITY OF OKLAHOMA STATE BEING SUCCESSFUL IN THE NEW BIG 12.

OKAY.

THE ONLY OTHER ONE I HAVE HERE, DAN, IS I WAS ALL IN ON KANSAS STATE OVER EIGHT AND A HALF.

YEAH.

AND MY QUOTE WAS, “I THINK THEY’VE GOT ONE OF THE THREE EASIEST SCHEDULES IN THE CONFERENCE.

THEY MIGHT HAVE THE BEST COACH IN THE CONFERENCE.”

I SUNG THE PRAISES OF THE WILDCATS.

MEANWHILE, SORT OF PANNED THE LOSSES OF DEUCE VAUGHN AND MALIK KNOWLES.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, HE’S LIKE A GREAT, IN RETROSPECT, DEUCE VAUGHN WAS EVEN BETTER THAN WE GAVE HIM CREDIT FOR.

BUT HERE’S THE THING ABOUT THEM, GUYS.

YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY TIGHT SITUATION AT MISSOURI WHERE THEY EASILY COULD HAVE WON THAT GAME AND PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEATEN TEXAS.

SO I DON’T THINK YOU WERE THAT FAR OFF.

I WASN’T FAR OFF.

I MEAN, THEY WON EIGHT GAMES.

SO IT WASN’T, OR WON EIGHT GAMES IN REGULAR SEASON.

SO I WASN’T THAT FAR OFF.

BUT I WAS SO SURE ON K-STATE.

I THINK THAT’S WHY I’M SAYING I WAS WRONG.

IT’S A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE OKLAHOMA STATE THING WHERE I KNOW WHAT I SAID AT THE START OF THE YEAR AND I KNOW I WASN’T THAT FAR OFF BASE.

BUT TO MY CORE, IN MY MARROW, I DID NOT BELIEVE IN OKLAHOMA STATE.

TO MY CORE, IN MY MARROW, I THOUGHT K-STATE COULD WIN 10 GAMES AND DEFINITELY OVERLOOKED THE FACT THAT THEY HAD LOST TWO OF THEIR MOST KEY CONTRIBUTORS.

TO PILE ON, THOUGH, TO TY’S WRONGNESS, DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GIVE UP 42 POINTS TO IOWA STATE IN THE SNOW?

I KNOW.

DIFFICULT.

THAT GAME MADE NO SENSE.

NO, I KNOW.

NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

BUT LET ME ASK YOU GUYS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I AM ALL IN ON AVERY JOHNSON.

SO IS DAN.

I AM ALL IN.

LIKE I’M THINKING K-STATE.

IT’S EITHER K-STATE OR UTAH FOR ME TO WIN THIS YEAR.

YOU CAN’T PUT IT ON THE BOARD.

YEAH.

SO LET’S GO HAWK HARRELSON TWICE HERE.

OH, WE’RE JUST PREPARING FOR MY…

SEE, THIS IS GOOD.

I’LL BE MORE PREPPED WHEN YOU BRING ME BACK NEXT YEAR AS THE RONCOLOGIST.

OH MY GOD.

I WAS ALL IN ON AVERY JOHNSON.

TYLER SHOOK, AVERY JOHNSON.

YEAH, YEAH.

AVERY JOHNSON WAS SO FUN IN LIMITED OPPORTUNITY THIS YEAR AND LIKE PACKAGE SITUATIONS.

AND THEN HAS WORK TO DO, I THINK, AS A PASSER, BUT THAT’S THE BOWL GAME AND I DON’T FULLY TAKE BOWL RESULTS AND SITUATIONS TERRIBLY SERIOUSLY ANYMORE.

BUT THE BEST OF AVERY JOHNSON?

I AM READY TO BE HEARD AGAIN, TY.

YEAH.

YES.

READY TO BE HEARD AGAIN.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT’S A LOT OF WRONGNESS FOR ONE EPISODE, TY.

I THINK WE’VE DEFINITELY CONFESSED TO OUR SINS HERE.

YEAH.

ON THE EPISODE.

IT IS AN OCCUPATIONAL HAZARD, BUT IT IS REQUIRED IN THE SHADOW OF THE SEASON TO AT LEAST REFLECT A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT WE’RE RIGHT ABOUT, WHAT WE WERE IN THIS CASE WRONG ABOUT.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PUNS I CAME UP WITH FOR THIS EPISODE, TY?

YOU?

I HAVEN’T EVEN TOUCHED THE SURFACE.

I CAME UP WITH COLLEGE FOOTBALL WRONG PUNS.

LIKE I WAS PREPARED TO CALL YOU THE WRONG PAIN FOR YOUR ALABAMA PICK OVER MICHIGAN.

I WAS READY TO, YOU KNOW, WRONG BELLAMY, WRONG E-BELL FOR MICHIGAN PICKS.

I WAS FULLY AND I JUST SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?

THAT’S A LITTLE MUCH TO TRY TO SQUEEZE INTO EACH WRONG ELEMENT.

SO I OPTED OUT.

BUT I WAS GOING TO SAY WHEN YOU ASK THE QUESTION, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY WHEN YOU ASK THE QUESTION, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PUNS I CAME UP WITH?

I WAS GONNA BE LIKE TWO WRONG COLLEGES AND WINTERNESS.

WE HOPE HERE.

THERE’S A LIST OF LIKE, THERE’S A WHOLE LIST OF LIKE, I WAS, I WAS CONSIDERING WRONG BURGUNDY FOR YOUR ALABAMA PICK.

I WAS READY FOR A LOT.

AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT?

THIS IS DAN JUST SMASHING TOO MUCH INTO THE EPISODE.

AND I PULLED BACK TIME, THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR HERE.

I FEEL GUILTY.

I DIDN’T EVEN MENTION ANDY STAPLES, SHOW “ANDY STAPLES ON3.”

YOU’RE DOING A MARVELOUS JOB GRINDING EVEN IN THE OFF SEASON.

WHAT IS THE OFF SEASON BEEN LIKE THE QUOTE UNQUOTE OFF SEASON BEEN LIKE FOR YOU?

HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO RECALIBRATE AND CATCH YOUR BREATH A LITTLE BIT?

NON-EXISTENT BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO DO A SHOW JUST LIKE THIS AND WE’VE NEVER EVEN GOTTEN AROUND TO IT BECAUSE SOME NEW STUFF HAPPENS PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY.

LIKE YOU HAD THE TRANSFER PORTAL GOING CRAZY.

NOW YOU HAVE ALL THE LEGAL STUFF, WHICH IT’S HARD FOR ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE AUDIENCE DOES NOT NECESSARILY CARE ABOUT THAT STUFF.

BUT THE STUFF THAT’S GOING ON NOW IS SO BIG.

I’M LIKE, GUYS, YOU’RE GOING TO WANT TO CARE HERE BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.

LIKE THIS TENNESSEE AND VIRGINIA VERSUS THE INCIDENT LIKE CASE, LIKE THAT’S A BIG DEAL.

AND SO IT’S ONE OF THOSE THINGS LIKE WE’RE HAVING A LAW PROFESSOR ON.

WELL, THAT’S, THAT’S THE SHOW.

AND BUT IT’S, THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCERNIBLE OFF SEASON.

I’M LOOKING AT IT LIKE I’M TEXTING WITH SPORTS INFORMATION DIRECTORS SAYING, HEY, CAN WE GET YOUR COACH ON?

CAN WE GET SOME PLAYERS ON?

AND THEY’RE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE’LL BE STARTING SPRING PRACTICE IN TWO WEEKS.

SO YEAH, LET’S LET’S GET GOING.

IT’S AMAZING.

ANDY STAPLES, ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU.

DR.

ANDREW STAPLES, FORGIVE ME.

PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU ON.

A WRONGCOLOGIST OF YOUR STATURE IS HARD TO COME BY.

I KNOW YOU’RE VERY BUSY.

SO THANK YOU FOR CONTRIBUTING TO OUR SHOW HERE.

DON’T FORGET ONE AND ALL.

MAKE SURE YOU HIT SUBSCRIBE OR FOLLOW WHEREVER IT IS YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS.

AND OF COURSE, CHECK US OUT ON PATREON AT VERBALLERS.COM.

DAN RUBENSTEIN, I THINK THAT’S ALL WE GOT FOR THIS EPISODE.

THAT’S ALL I HAVE FOR THAT GUY OVER THERE.

DAN, FOR MYSELF, TY, FOR OUR GUEST OF HONOR, DR.

ANDY STAPLES.

WE’LL TALK TO YOU ALL SOON.

STAY SOLID.

PEACE.

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